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CobraEF
03-14-2003, 03:29 AM
We are now testing the SW anticheat.
And it looks like it is workiing good for now.

It has implanted a new Ban features allso.
We have now made it possibel to ban forever,
And it has inplanted a feature that makes it possible to force
screenshot at the players and send to your server.

This is a client side anticheat.
But that is the only way to make it work this good.

And it is made in a spesial way so it is userf friendly for people.
So you can have a different IP address to the anticheat than to the server.
But still it is just to start it to run.
And minimize it.
Then it is just to do like you used to do.
Take out the all seeing eye and connect to the server.
And the Anticheat will find the Anticheat server by it self.
You dont need to find the ip and put in manuali as in the other Anticheat clents that is out.

And it even work behind a router/nat without needing to open ports for it to work.

It is not relised yet.
We are still running tests on it.
But it is not long before it gets droped out on the internet for download.

Capt_Obvious
03-14-2003, 03:47 PM
Hey Cobra if you guys need any BETA testers let me know :D ;) :D ;)

CobraEF
03-15-2003, 06:01 AM
This is the first time we have testet things and not found any buggs to talk about.
It is working like a dream.
It is easy to use, and it is not stopped by a nat or router.
Only things that stops this anticheats is the firewall at the players computer.
If that is set up. It will work perfect.
So in the middel of next week, Enforver will start to put in the rest of the stuff, that will be used to ban forever and the settings fore all the new features.
So i dont think that it will take to long before a Final version od the anticheats gets put out for download.

I think that this is the best anticheat made for mohaa until now.
And allso the best servertool.
It will not kick people any moore fore autojoin team or swithing teams to fast anymoore.

wolf
03-15-2003, 06:32 PM
ok sounds great anticheat is needed that is simple to download install and configure and that works for all, thats no small demands :) but its needed.

Capt_Obvious
03-15-2003, 07:33 PM
Sounds great man can't wait to try it out man.

Toke

CobraEF
03-17-2003, 04:26 PM
We are now testing the new SW Anticheat.
We have built in a few new features than any other ever hav had.

We have a brand new ban feeature,
It banns people for ever.
And they can change the ip and nick. but they are still banned.

We have a new Force Screenshots feature.
It forces a screenshots from the players.
And it compress it down to about 50 kb and directly sends it to the Anticheat server.
So the admins can look at the pictures and find cheaters and ban them for ever.

And we have the normal stuff as all the other anticheats have.

and we have built it to be a user friendly anticheat client.
It dont mater if people are behind a nat/router.
They will still connect without a problem,
Dont mater if the anticheat is runed remote from another ip.
It will still connect to it by it self.

It will be droped out for download for all in a short time.

Here is some screenshots that are forced from the anticheat.
and forced uploaded to the server right after the picture is taken.

www.elitefish.no/demo.php

Green_Falcon
03-18-2003, 01:22 AM
This sounds by far the best anticheat program, and i would love to run it, but i only have one problem. Other client server anticheat programs, the person has to have the anticheat to connect to the server, this is why i have a problem with it. If everyone without the anticheat trys to get in our server and fails, how are they going to know what anticheat they we are running. is it possible, to have people without the anticheat to come in for a little while, so that the server can inform them that they need the anticheat program to continue play. This would be very benificial because it would get rid of all of my worrys, because then at least new players would be informed of where and how to get the anticheat program. If this could be done, i would be the happiest admin, cause it will be so much easier than it has been, than it has been in the past.
Thanks

CobraEF
03-18-2003, 03:08 AM
It is made in a way that the anticheats dont connect to the server before about 60 sec after they connect.
So i gues they will have about 2 minuts before they get kicked.
so it is just to make a messages that goes on the server every 2 minuts that they need a anticheatclient and where to download it.

Green_Falcon
03-18-2003, 04:28 PM
Thank you cobra, this is going to be an awsome program, i have used your program since it first came out, and it has been awsome,cant wait for the next version, what other features are going to be in 9.0? if it is still under raps thats cool, but you said that it would fix the autojoin thing and the switching teams to fast, how is it going to do that? is the button going to be missing or deactivated? just wondering. U expecting 9.0 to come out in 2 weeks??

CobraEF
03-18-2003, 06:43 PM
The buttons will work as they are orginal in the game.

I hope the new version will be out in 2 weeks.

Green_Falcon
03-18-2003, 06:53 PM
Sweet. i cant wait, this next version is going to kick ass, as well does 8.9, but i am really looking forward to anticheat, and autojoin working. Thanks Green

Capt_Obvious
03-19-2003, 04:49 PM
Hold up here you now have to force those coming in to download a separate anticheat client so that they can play? I thought that the whole point of this proggy was to catch them in the act with some surprise and alarm (sorry couldnt resist the MP ref :D ) But seriously which is it? Peronally when I go into a server and am told that I "Have" to download a proggy just to play a game, I tend to not only be VERY skeptical (as I really dont like keyloggers or trojans sneaking in my bung!) but very annoyed and tend to never come back again. That maybe just my personal observation on the subject but I very seriously doubt that I am alone on this one.

Green_Falcon
03-19-2003, 05:18 PM
well i hear you and i have debated with my team, i am the co-owner of tr and am the operate our server, for the most part people are ok with a client/server side anticheat tool, i have been admining our server for about 6 months, and im tired of all the cheaters and the problems caused by this, i cant admin all the time, and it leaves our server open, This is the problem, if the program is not server/client side, almost no anticheat program works well, i can turn on 15 cheats simutaniously and delator will not catch me. It is a problem with the game not the makers of the programs. The only way to have a clean server is to have client/serverside anticheat.
We have spent much time debating about anticheat programs but frankly, it is not worth my time to keep running into my server to kick some imbisil i think is cheating.

CobraEF
03-19-2003, 06:28 PM
The reason Enforcer is going to make one version in just rcon to the server is to give everyone a possiblity to use this anticheat.

And if it works good.
Mabe a lots of the servers will use it.
And then the players dont have a other option than to use anticheat.

That is what i am hoping for.

It is nothing in the world of reason not to use it.

You all have winzip or somekind of program like that.
You most have a download program instaled,

but when you talk about a antihcheat is no i dont want to install it.
For me that sounds like cheaters that have something to hide.
And the clan around here i live.
Will most use it.
Becase they know that if they say no to use it.
People will think that they are cheating.

And the anticheat client dont do anything wrong when it is installed.
And all info sendt to the server is crypted.
So that info is only good for SW and nothing else.

Enforcer
03-19-2003, 06:32 PM
But seriously which is it? Peronally when I go into a server and am told that I "Have" to download a proggy just to play a game, I tend to not only be VERY skeptical (as I really dont like keyloggers or trojans sneaking in my bung!) but very annoyed and tend to never come back again. That maybe just my personal observation on the subject but I very seriously doubt that I am alone on this one.

That’s how it works in the best way i think. You can tell ServerWatch to let players without AntiCheat playing on the Server but you don’t have to.

Some words to your problems about privacy. That’s a problem im also sure with. But you can easily check what data ServerWatch Anticheat sends . If only sends data to the ServerWatch Server and no other ip if you disable the automatic Update system (which is plain txt and only incoming traffic). So nobody will see anything more than you also can test on the ServerWatch-Server.

If AntiCheat is released i will exactly tell the people what data get transferred. For some security reasons and hack attempts i will not make the protocol itself available, i just can tell you what data ServerWatch-AntiCheat
sends to the ServerWatch.

Green_Falcon
03-19-2003, 07:15 PM
I agree with both enforcer and cobra, this is for the good of moh, it is not going to do anything harmful, and it is the best way, oh cobra you said that you hope many people start using it well, i am going to use it, our server is the {TR} TombRaiders server and it holds 28 people, we are soon to get another server, another 28, plus im trying to get {B/G/B} to move over with me another 22 person server, i think people will freely get the anticheat software, to continue playing on the servers that they frequently visit

CobraEF
03-20-2003, 01:42 PM
i allredy know of about 20 servers that will run it.
And that i know allredy before it is out for download.

and i hope 100`s of other servers will do the same.

Green_Falcon
03-20-2003, 08:41 PM
Sweet, im hoping that everyone does to, i will just be sitting here reading a Stephen King book till it comes out, and waiting for my webpage to come back online, thanks for such a great program. Oh one question, if i turn on skin detection it seems to detect only half of the skins, i run a 28 person server, just wanted to know what was up, probably one of my settings wrong. Thanks for the help
{TR} Green Falcon

Enforcer
03-21-2003, 02:21 AM
Yes thats really possible. Please check youre Skin refresh time. If seams to be to fast. Maybe you set it to 10 Minutes - thats slow enough for sure.

Green_Falcon
03-21-2003, 02:52 AM
thanks for the help, oh here is another quesiton, this anticheat can detect cheats, so far how accurate has it been, and can the host of serverwatch change settings with it to allow and dissalow certain things, just curious, back to my book

Enforcer
03-21-2003, 03:04 AM
anticheta can detect every cheat that is there in the moment. No matter if internal (like skins) or external like wall hack.

You can setup it as always like you want it. If someone likes a server with wall hack - no problem everyone can play with it - but normaly you have a problem *G*

accuracy: thats not that easy - ServerWatch can not always say what cheat the user is using. If you using a standard cheat pk3 than you know it. But if someone manipulate the original pk3 files ServerWatch AntiCheat just can tell you - man that one manipulated something on it - but not what he has done

But finally you will see it on the release what i wanted to tell you here :D

Green_Falcon
03-21-2003, 04:14 PM
thanks man cant wait, great program, Im sure many appriciate it, but i cant speak for everyone but my team of 22 really appriciate it.

{TR} Green Falcon

Green_Falcon
03-23-2003, 12:00 AM
you guys still on track for 1 week, hehe, i cant wait.

sal
03-24-2003, 02:57 AM
"Other client server anticheat programs, the person has to have the anticheat to connect to the server, this is why i have a problem with it. If everyone without the anticheat trys to get in our server and fails, how are they going to know what anticheat they we are running. is it possible, to have people without the anticheat to come in for a little while, so that the server can inform them that they need the anticheat program to continue play"





Hi Im Sal from -={IC}=-Team i run the Anti-cheat apps on my server.
i like to ask some Q heh
1-i use a no cd exe and none of the anti_cheats kick me for it will this one ?

2-most players hate to download app that dont have a big name.

3-will you let them have any custom scopes ? can we pick them it as Admins ?

4-blood mod is this a go ? if yes will it come with it or can the admin pic it ?

5-will this slow down game play? will you take longer to get on the server ?

5- how well you know some one is cheating and that they dont have a blood mod installed or a no cd exe ? and i would hate to be kicked for cheating when i dont and use a blood mod, some players will get kicked and not know what to do after but write hate mail and post crap in your forum over it.

6-will this kick/ban players then say we go into a match say ogl. and some one comes in and there ban what then ?

7- are you going to try to get this working on all ladders frist to see what they say ?

8- i love anti-cheat apps and most of them are a great help. But the ones you have to download suck, ya ya i know what your going to say so say it ok, But i say this from a guy that has a full server ever day. and as a Admin that know all about Anit-Cheat apps(that has help and set up over 20 servers for clans out there)

9- is there a way to let them download this as they come into the gaming server as well ? say from a ftp server of the host web page of the clan ?
and have it install it self or goto the path way that the player can Select so he dont have to leave to get it.(i would pay for the ftp server for you so the hole world could download it from my server with out 1 ad in it !!!



10-will you be updating this as much as you guys/gals could or will this die out ?( i have used your app for a lit time so i think your hook on the game but i need to ask) As alot of cheaters get bypast crap fast.



11- do you need some help ? mountainwolf@nc.rr.com is my E-mail


12- what about
bind s "+leanleft; +moveleft"
bind f "+leanright; +moveright"
and Taunts over 150 lines of them it makes the game fun for me. all in custom.cfg file, is this a go ?

as far as Anti-Cheat gos this is what i do,
i have 6 on my server that run at the same time no big deal right will i did it with out Mem so, any ways i have made up some AC my self with no way to get them to players and find out if they have them installed..
inlight of some of the new cheats out i cant seem to say if players are cheating or good at the game anymore.
(oh ya i have a server side mod that can put bots on the map with out a download lmao)

this is how i set my servers up
i let players force there skins as the game was ment to be with no custom skins on my server at all. i take the pics here and there but i have seen so many 3rd party app that im sick of them. i hate to have to look over a player for cheats.


please try let me know about all this.



thanks for your work and i hope this is some thing that works in a great way.

CobraEF
03-24-2003, 10:28 AM
"Other client server anticheat programs, the person has to have the anticheat to connect to the server, this is why i have a problem with it. If everyone without the anticheat trys to get in our server and fails, how are they going to know what anticheat they we are running. is it possible, to have people without the anticheat to come in for a little while, so that the server can inform them that they need the anticheat program to continue play They will be abel to be in the server fore about 2 minuts.
And they will get a message about where to go and download the anticheat to get to play in the server.


"Hi Im Sal from -={IC}=-Team i run the Anti-cheat apps on my server.
i like to ask some Q heh
1-i use a no cd exe and none of the anti_cheats kick me for it will this one ? No you will not be kicked if you set the anticheat up the right way.

"2-most players hate to download app that dont have a big name. This anticheat dont have a big name yet. But we hope that will change in a short time after we give it out for the public.

"3-will you let them have any custom scopes ? can we pick them it as Admins ?
4-blood mod is this a go ? if yes will it come with it or can the admin pic it ?
It is possibel to get it to allow spesific things like custom scopes and a bloodpatch. But then they all have to use the same so you get the checksum for it so they cant change it out with something else inside it.


"5-will this slow down game play? will you take longer to get on the server ? No just as before.

"5- how well you know some one is cheating and that they dont have a blood mod installed or a no cd exe ? and i would hate to be kicked for cheating when i dont and use a blood mod, some players will get kicked and not know what to do after but write hate mail and post crap in your forum over it. It will tell them before they get kicked if it is a pk.3file that is wrong. Or they will get to see if they get banned. But they may not see what they are banned for. But the report you get in his folder will show you what is wrong. And all people that has modified the PAK files will get banned.

"6-will this kick/ban players then say we go into a match say ogl. and some one comes in and there ban what then ? Then you can go into that players folder and see what he has been banned for, and what nick and ip he used when he got banned. And you just send the info to CB and send the proff from the SW antcheat and tell them that they have a cheater in the team and you wont play against them.

"7- are you going to try to get this working on all ladders frist to see what they say ? We are from the start going to try to get it into ClanBase as we use. But hopefuly it will get up in other ladders to. Just talk to them about it and if they need someone to talk to just send them to the Download site of the anticheat and they find our mail there and they can talk to us about it.

"8- i love anti-cheat apps and most of them are a great help. But the ones you have to download suck, ya ya i know what your going to say so say it ok, But i say this from a guy that has a full server ever day. and as a Admin that know all about Anit-Cheat apps(that has help and set up over 20 servers for clans out there) Well i adminster about 7 servers today. And i have set up to many mohaa servers in most parts of the world. And i cant see any trouble with this. As long as a lot of servers start to use it the people has to start use it if they want or not, or not they can play in some newbee servers. In Norway here i live most need to have it becase i am admin in most of the good servers here.

"9- is there a way to let them download this as they come into the gaming server as well ? say from a ftp server of the host web page of the clan ?
and have it install it self or goto the path way that the player can Select so he dont have to leave to get it.(i would pay for the ftp server for you so the hole world could download it from my server with out 1 ad in it !!! Sorry that is not possibel. But i can say that we have made the anticheat client wery easy to use. Just i line they have to put in 1 of 3 places and open the firwall and from there most goes by it self.
It finds the anticheat server by it self dont mater of it is in another ip than the mohaa server. It will find it and hook up by it self. about 60 sec after joining the server.



"10-will you be updating this as much as you guys/gals could or will this die out ?( i have used your app for a lit time so i think your hook on the game but i need to ask) As alot of cheaters get bypast crap fast. Well the anticheat and the server has it own update engine, so it will be updated as often as it is possibel to make any thing better or when we have found errors or hole in it that cheaters can use.



"11- do you need some help ? mountainwolf@nc.rr.com is my E-mail What do you know about the game or programing ?


"12- what about
bind s "+leanleft; +moveleft"
bind f "+leanright; +moveright"
and Taunts over 150 lines of them it makes the game fun for me. all in custom.cfg file, is this a go ? The bindings for lean/strafe will be gone but the rest you can bind as you want. But the Lean/Strafe binding gives a advantage that is not ment to be there. So the players that want to lean and strafe must start to practise to make it work. becase they have to do it with different buttons.

[ E|F ] Cobr@

sal
03-24-2003, 02:44 PM
1 of 3 places and open the firwall and from there most goes by it self.


your saying we have to drop the fire wall what about guys on a router ?
what about umm new players that dont know how to set things like this up ? are we going to have to stop to set there mod up now ? !


What do you know about the game or programing ?


programing nothing but i know alot about the inner working of the game i know more then most and have some thing i have made with no way of making them work ingame.


The bindings for lean/strafe will be gone but the rest you can bind as you want. But the Lean/Strafe binding gives a advantage that is not ment to be there. So the players that want to lean and strafe must start to practise to make it work. becase they have to do it with different buttons.



omg my Taunts and lean are gone ummmmm[/quote]

CobraEF
03-24-2003, 05:29 PM
1 of 3 places and open the firwall and from there most goes by it self.


your saying we have to drop the fire wall what about guys on a router ?
what about umm new players that dont know how to set things like this up ? are we going to have to stop to set there mod up now ? ! It do work with a firewall. the server and the client only need to make a rule for it in the firewall so it let it pass. And it is made to work behind a router, becase that was one of the main reason when we started to make this that is should be easy to use for everybody that is sepose to use the client part. The server is a bit more work to set up. becase it is possibel to adjust what ever you like to in it.

What do you know about the game or programing ?


programing nothing but i know alot about the inner working of the game i know more then most and have some thing i have made with no way of making them work ingame. i did not get what you ment here. pelase tell a bit more about it.



The bindings for lean/strafe will be gone but the rest you can bind as you want. But the Lean/Strafe binding gives a advantage that is not ment to be there. So the players that want to lean and strafe must start to practise to make it work. becase they have to do it with different buttons.



omg my Taunts and lean are gone ummmmm I was saying that your taunts you can still use.
But the bindings of the game is gone. And that is becase not all are having the bindings and it is nop possibel way to set it with bindings in the setup of the game and then all that have it gets a thing that makes him a better player in close combat and that is wrong. This game should be a Skillz thing and not a thing that the people with the best tools and head for computers should have advantage over they other that plays it. I think if we can say that the bindings dont matter..... even if it gives a advantage. That is not justified. Becase then people can start to justifie that they have custom skinns that they see moore easy allso and so on.
So i say lets play the game like it is sepose to be.
Then it is the same for all and people need to pratice to get good and skilled.

sal
03-25-2003, 06:20 PM
sal wrote:
programing nothing but i know alot about the inner working of the game i know more then most and have some thing i have made with no way of making them work ingame.


i did not get what you ment here. pelase tell a bit more about it.

ok im sorry my typing sucks
most players set there and play some make mods and few get to see how the game works as in what the 3d E is doing in game and what it will load before the game starts.

all im saying is that i know alot about this game and have 2 things that i made up my self that no one has in the way of anti-cheats. with no way of geting it out there for us guys that dont cheat and are forced to play with cheaters ever day. i made up a file that when you place it in the game you will not uses any kind on seta or setu ingame that would be used for cheating None even if they H the exe. installed a exex XXXX.cfg

thats 1 that i made and i have something that im working on right now to only use ingame skins only.

any ways seeing your be no lean i might not run this app and will look at it but it would seem to me that my beloved game is done for later

Green_Falcon
03-25-2003, 06:26 PM
when do you guys think that 9.0 will be out, and sal what did you mean by my beloved game is done for

sal
03-25-2003, 06:50 PM
sal what did you mean by my beloved game is done for

well its like this man ever time one man makes a app for anti-cheating.
they make something that none cheaters uses as in this case the lean
we the players have talk about it over and over and over
with good fights over it with both sides (if you lean will it help ?-YES)
so why cant pp that make app let the game do what it can do WITH OUT STOPING US THAT DONT CHEAT MUST WE BE TOOK DOWN OVER CHEATERS ?

i see that as some thing that will take the fun out of my game.
so why as a good play say in the top 10% of gamers would i ever uses somthing that will take from my game (no lean) but if they say there going to let us but not in the same way as before then thats F.


oh ya my clan is on ogl at rung 11.

Sal

Green_Falcon
03-25-2003, 08:24 PM
cobra, can you make it so that you can use leaning? i think players will be mad if they cant lean.

captain_trips
03-26-2003, 02:15 AM
Players can lean. They just can't use key bindings to do it. That is what he is saying that you need to practice doing it without mutiple movements bound to one key.

CobraEF
03-26-2003, 02:34 AM
Players can lean. They just can't use key bindings to do it. That is what he is saying that you need to practice doing it without mutiple movements bound to one key.

THat is right Captain_trips :)
They can lean but not have multiple moves in one button.

sal
03-26-2003, 04:43 AM
ok man np at all.

you look for my name and my clan tag

I Got tho 5 mins ago. i was sleeping thinking of code and as some of us do and it hit me out of a cold sweet i got up and tryed it omg "IT WORKS IT WORKS " i told my self but how could this be. im a nothing that loves the game thats all. i dont know what most of the guys know on writing stuff. i have not been online like most of you guys who is from a 4 year never seen a line of code or got any school for it in his life.

well i have asked one guy for help geting it out there. Well see if he helps if not ill do the hard work my self.

What have i done you ask ?
i come up with a way to make XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (Well you will see soon)
thanks for your time and we will give this out at the same time you will (i hope lol)
All the admin has to do is set it up no client set ups or being kicked off the server. or taking from the game as in the lean !
have a nice day.

ps no cheap crap like client downloads and loss on the lean >:) see ya

-={IC}=-ShotGunSal
www.InnerCircleClan.com
www.innercircleclan.com/vbportal/forums/index.php
Server ip:199.103.180.151:12203
Icq:272808522

CobraEF
03-26-2003, 10:13 AM
ok man np at all.

you look for my name and my clan tag

I Got tho 5 mins ago. i was sleeping thinking of code and as some of us do and it hit me out of a cold sweet i got up and tryed it omg "IT WORKS IT WORKS " i told my self but how could this be. im a nothing that loves the game thats all. i dont know what most of the guys know on writing stuff. i have not been online like most of you guys who is from a 4 year never seen a line of code or got any school for it in his life.

well i have asked one guy for help geting it out there. Well see if he helps if not ill do the hard work my self.

What have i done you ask ?
i come up with a way to make XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (Well you will see soon)
thanks for your time and we will give this out at the same time you will (i hope lol)
All the admin has to do is set it up no client set ups or being kicked off the server. or taking from the game as in the lean !
have a nice day.

ps no cheap crap like client downloads and loss on the lean >:) see ya

-={IC}=-ShotGunSal
www.InnerCircleClan.com
www.innercircleclan.com/vbportal/forums/index.php
Server ip:199.103.180.151:12203
Icq:272808522

Havent a *CLUE* what you talk about here.
But to make a good anticheat with out a client.
Have a nice day ;)

sal
03-26-2003, 10:46 AM
i got off the phone with blackbart and gave him ever thing i had on this he is going to right the code as it will not be to hard to do. and get backed to me as soon as hes done ill keep you posted.

but heres some candy for ya think no wall hacked skins
that means no more no more !

i hate the cheater but love the game i got it in my sleep hehe come to me my love

Green_Falcon
03-26-2003, 05:01 PM
what the heck are you talking about sal? what i dont understand is you seem to be mad at the people who make serverwatch, there is no reason, they are striving to make a great program and you seem to hate them for one little minor thing. No offence meant but what are you talking about in your last few posts

sal
03-26-2003, 05:52 PM
Players can lean. They just can't use key bindings to do it. That is what he is saying that you need to practice doing it without mutiple movements bound to one key.

THat is right Captain_trips :)
They can lean but not have multiple moves in one button.

well this and as a guy that is trying to help why take from the game that is what gets me to no end. why take my lean did i do somthing to you ?

Green_Falcon
03-26-2003, 06:04 PM
LOL, why take the cheats away, what did i do?
LOL
JK

sal
03-26-2003, 06:15 PM
see thats my point you see it as a cheat not as somthing that would could and can happen in real life.

its set so you can do it so why take it. calling me a cheater nice
frist rounds of testing on my app worked great

Green_Falcon
03-26-2003, 06:28 PM
How bout this, sal, how bout instead of bashing it you say, Hey Cobra, is there a way where you could choose if you want bindings on or off, that way that the program would be more customizable to the way that everyone wants to run there server. Cobra is that possible???

Thanks, i really appriciate all the hard work you guys do

and sal if you dont like cheap crap "stop posting about it cause your never going to use it, you will make more friends by asking questions instead of bashing peoples work, when your program comes out, i would like to check it out, i am a programmer, im sure i could find some crap to bullshit your program about.

sal
03-26-2003, 06:31 PM
sal what did you mean by my beloved game is done for

well its like this man ever time one man makes a app for anti-cheating.
they make something that none cheaters uses as in this case the lean
we the players have talk about it over and over and over
with good fights over it with both sides (if you lean will it help ?-YES)
so why cant pp that make app let the game do what it can do WITH OUT STOPING US THAT DONT CHEAT MUST WE BE TOOK DOWN OVER CHEATERS ?

i see that as some thing that will take the fun out of my game.
so why as a good play say in the top 10% of gamers would i ever uses somthing that will take from my game (no lean) but if they say there going to let us but not in the same way as before then thats F.


oh ya my clan is on ogl at rung 11.

Sal

CobraEF
03-26-2003, 07:35 PM
How bout this, sal, how bout instead of bashing it you say, Hey Cobra, is there a way where you could choose if you want bindings on or off, that way that the program would be more customizable to the way that everyone wants to run there server. Cobra is that possible???

It is alredy made possible to turn on and off.
But what i have problems with in my head is that the admin can put it off under a clanmatch and no one else in the other clan use it becase they think that the SW is stopping it.
And then the other clan has some settings that makes it unfair.

But for now it is possibel to turn it on and off.
Mabe i will take it away becase of the ladders......
Or mabe i will get Enforcer to code a !Command that tells what is on and of in the Anticheat. so people mabe can type !Anticheat and the server tells what is on and of.

sal
03-26-2003, 07:41 PM
maybe the ladders will use it maybe they will not good luck

once again one man point of view not the community at hand. thats all im saying here. it sounds like it will be nice. and good luck with it ok

Green_Falcon
03-26-2003, 08:04 PM
Well sal look you ask for something and they try to encorperate it, :) they are good people, ask before you dis there program

And Cobra, you said you have a problem with it when your having a ladder match, How bout this, you have it possible That you can say !stats and it will show you your stats, how bout you have one that says !bindings that says if bindings are on or off :) i think that would be a good idea or something similar so that the people Know whether bindings are on or off,

Or,

You know the main Score screen it is possible to show the level with dmz dogtag, mabye you could make it display whether Bindings are on or off.

Thanks again

Green Falcon

Green_Falcon
03-26-2003, 08:07 PM
OPs i didnt notice that you put that there, I only have one problem with the !stats command, if people figure out how to say !stats, they can also say !Hey That guy is under the bridge, and it will brodcast there speach through console, if that could be fixed i think that is a great idea.:)

CobraEF
03-27-2003, 09:26 AM
OPs i didnt notice that you put that there, I only have one problem with the !stats command, if people figure out how to say !stats, they can also say !Hey That guy is under the bridge, and it will brodcast there speach through console, if that could be fixed i think that is a great idea.:)
If that is a problem that the SW is making we can fix it.
If not we can make people that say !Hey to get kicked out of the server.
And i think they will stop writing that fast.

Green_Falcon
03-27-2003, 04:12 PM
lol that would be cool, i think what is happening is

here is the problem
if someone typs

!guy under bridge Console says this

the command [!guy under bridge] not found in list please use !help for list

and it brodcasts that to everyone.

P.S. Any info when your going to realease the product :( I have another server switching over with me, so for me that is {TR} and {B/G/B}, im almost done with my Stephan King book. Lol thanks

CobraEF
03-27-2003, 05:03 PM
lol that would be cool, i think what is happening is

here is the problem
if someone typs

!guy under bridge Console says this

the command [!guy under bridge] not found in list please use !help for list

and it brodcasts that to everyone.

P.S. Any info when your going to realease the product :( I have another server switching over with me, so for me that is {TR} and {B/G/B}, im almost done with my Stephan King book. Lol thanks

I have just tryed it and yes that is a Stupid thing that it repets what they write.
So i will get that fixed.
And it commes soon.........
But i have found a few new features we need to implant into it.
To make it work better, that is some features that we will not tell about.
But it will be good.

Green_Falcon
03-27-2003, 05:07 PM
SWEEEET I CANT WAIT, Thanks for all your hard work, {TR} and {B/G/B} Eagerly Await!!

Green_Falcon
03-27-2003, 08:56 PM
Oh i was just wondering, im sure that this program is going to be maintained and grown upon, but your stats portion of the server, are you hoping (in the future) to make it where it can can do stats for a website easily and in a very nicely formated way? just wondering, something like aestats or something. Just wondern thanks

Green_Falcon
03-30-2003, 11:06 PM
Yo i just wanted to let Cobra Know that one of my members showed me a website that is dedicated of cheats, you probably have it, but i would like to send you the link to help test out the anticheat, im not going to post the link here because they are cheats, if you want the url i can pm you or, send it to your email.

CobraEF
04-02-2003, 04:58 PM
Oh i was just wondering, im sure that this program is going to be maintained and grown upon, but your stats portion of the server, are you hoping (in the future) to make it where it can can do stats for a website easily and in a very nicely formated way? just wondering, something like aestats or something. Just wondern thanks

That is allredy built in.
You just need to find the right button to push and it generate the pages for stats.
It might need a bit update for make it to put it up in a better order.
But for now that is not somthing that is put time in.
We want the anticheat perfect and out for download before the anything else get changed.