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Floyd
02-21-2003, 05:34 PM
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I need some clarification on some of the options running MAMSecurity, MOHAA CI, MAMAddons, and Hammer's Goodies.

Forcing Models..is this a good thing or bad thing for cheat prevention?
The following assumes that periodically UN-forcing
a clients forced model setting is good. Please correct
me if I'm wrong on this.

Given that I do not have 24/7 monitoring capabilities of the server,
I would like to accomplish the following:

During non-monitored times:
Have skins forced every map change. Checked and
re-forced at intervals during the game. Have clients
models unforced. Checked and re-unforced at intervals
during the game.
(Is this about all I can do on a linux server?)

During monitored times: (with MOHAA CI and MAMSecurity.
Hammer_Goodies is always running.
In addition to the above.
Scan for cheats. Done with MOHAA CI.



My settings for this would be:
Hammer_Goodies:
set _ham_honesty 60 (or whatever interval)

set _ham_forcemodel 0 If I have Hammer_Goodies
do it,should I disable it
in MAM Security?)

set _ham_skins 1
set _ham_skin_interval 0 This should force a skin
change at each map change.
The _ham_honesty setting will
force to this skin at the
interval set.

set _ham_forcehonesty "" How do I set this one?
Comment out all append" statements?
OR - just set this to 0 or "0" ?
Really won't do any good setting
them if they are not being monitored.
Will conflict with MOHAA CI.
Correct in these assumptions?

MAMSecurity:
seta MAM_Security "0" Will this disable the rest of the
variables in the .cfg?

seta MAM_ComInterval 0 (let Hammer_Goodies do it)


seta force_skins "0" Should I comment these two lines out to
seta force_models"1" avoid conflict with Goodies - OR -
are they disabled by setting
MAM_Security "0" ?

NOW, that that is out of the way (lol)....

MAMMapfix, Barts mapfixes and Hammer mapfixes will conflict with each other if all were running. Correct?
If I wanted to use some of each of them, it would require editing of the respective fixes to get the desired result?

Thanks for your input and clarification.

Floyd
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****coding it was the only way I could get the formatting even close :oops:

Buzz_Litebeer
02-21-2003, 08:16 PM
sort of, if you want security, use MAM_Security and not hammers, if youwwant forcing of skins, you can EITHER turn on hammers force skins (which allows randomg skins) or MAM which is static.

I dont know anything about hammers goodies, periodic security is pointless unless there is an admin on and MOHAACI is not running. Force security is UTTERLLY pointless IF MMOHAACI, since MOHAACI uses the one shot security method client_forcehonesty, to do the checks.

Hammer
02-21-2003, 08:52 PM
Forcing models??? That's a good one! Personally I prefer forcing models with random skins. That means that in order for someone to cheat effectively :evil: , they must rename ALL skins found in the rotation or use a name NOT in the rotation (easily detected unless using a hexed binary) :( You should avoid having such a long _ham_honesty interval, this gives cheaters a chance to revert their settings after being forced; then again, too short an interval may cause lag. :rolleyes:

IF you're going to use CI, you should use the MAM_Security add-on from Buzz. You can also use my Goodies, but you should set _ham_force_honesty to nothing ("") or 0 (either works to disable it, make sure you commet-out all the append lines). This will allow you to still use the skin rotation.

MAM_mapfix and Goodies can co-exist, where there's a conflict you can easily disable from Goodies.

--[MC] Hammer

Floyd
02-22-2003, 01:11 AM
Believe it or not, I think I'm starting to get the picture.

I became confused on forcing models when I read a post somewhere that had some mis-information in it.

One can only do what one can to discourage cheaters. Since I can't monitor 24/7 (and don't really want to... I'd like to play too), the more annoying I can make it for the cheater, the better.

You guys' perseverence and hard work is much appreciated!

Floyd