ParrotCA
02-05-2003, 09:40 PM
Here is a copy/paste of a thread I started at thecheatpolice.com
I hope that somebody else can either confirm what I have discovered. I am not a programmer, and I don't know much about how this software works, but below is an observation I have put together over the past few days.
Ok, ok. I know this isn't the mohaadmin forums for this, but it does relate directly to Delator 2 and detecting/stopping some cheaters.
Lately, I have been having somebody turn off or crash delator 2. I know this sounds strange, but I have noticed a positive correlation between several events.
The timers on D-2 stop.
I restart, and I get the "delator already running, do you wish...."
I click yes to start it
the first 8 spots on our server are reserved, and D-2 gets through those fine, but then later on, it will give me a "runtime error-subscript out of range" I keep an eye on which client # it gave me the error on.
So, I go to my other computer where I have all seeing eye running, and use the remote console in ASE to do a "STATUS" check. Then I remember what "client number" D-2 reached before giving me the "runtime error"
I manually do a dumpuser on that client through ASE. In this case, it was client # 10 that the D-2 stopped running.
I dumpuser client #10 first, and low and behold, his
r_lightmap "hacked"
r_novis "hacked"
r_farplane "hacked"
r_farplane_nofog "hacked"
cg_3rd_person "hacked"
all read "hacked"
So, I clientkick 10
he leaves, but before he does, I ban him on CK's Auto-kicker, just so I have a record of his IP addy and can manually add it to the D-2 banned list.
Guess what? D-2 starts running just fine once I get rid of this ass.
So, I beleive that some of the "runtime error-subscript out of range" messages that some users have been getting may not be an error with Delator 2 at all, but somebody using a D-2 counter measure.
Just thought I would share this with the [CP]comunity, and see if anybody else could test my theory. I am sure others running D-2 have noticed similar instances where they could not re-start D-2 until a server shutdown or certain clients leave. If these events prove to be sound, then maybe we could pass the info on to YoChoy and/or Crow King and Shockwave.
If you don't already have All Seeing Eye, you can grab it at All Seeing Eye http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/
when you right click on your server, a menu comes up. Go to server properties, and enter your Rcon password. From here, you can run ANY rcon command without having to be in the server. Great for monitoring team matches. You can sit back, run your dumpuser quietly as an observer, and make sure you get the names spelled right.
Hope this helps someone.
Parrot(CA)
Confederate Armada www.confederatearmada.com
I hope that somebody else can either confirm what I have discovered. I am not a programmer, and I don't know much about how this software works, but below is an observation I have put together over the past few days.
Ok, ok. I know this isn't the mohaadmin forums for this, but it does relate directly to Delator 2 and detecting/stopping some cheaters.
Lately, I have been having somebody turn off or crash delator 2. I know this sounds strange, but I have noticed a positive correlation between several events.
The timers on D-2 stop.
I restart, and I get the "delator already running, do you wish...."
I click yes to start it
the first 8 spots on our server are reserved, and D-2 gets through those fine, but then later on, it will give me a "runtime error-subscript out of range" I keep an eye on which client # it gave me the error on.
So, I go to my other computer where I have all seeing eye running, and use the remote console in ASE to do a "STATUS" check. Then I remember what "client number" D-2 reached before giving me the "runtime error"
I manually do a dumpuser on that client through ASE. In this case, it was client # 10 that the D-2 stopped running.
I dumpuser client #10 first, and low and behold, his
r_lightmap "hacked"
r_novis "hacked"
r_farplane "hacked"
r_farplane_nofog "hacked"
cg_3rd_person "hacked"
all read "hacked"
So, I clientkick 10
he leaves, but before he does, I ban him on CK's Auto-kicker, just so I have a record of his IP addy and can manually add it to the D-2 banned list.
Guess what? D-2 starts running just fine once I get rid of this ass.
So, I beleive that some of the "runtime error-subscript out of range" messages that some users have been getting may not be an error with Delator 2 at all, but somebody using a D-2 counter measure.
Just thought I would share this with the [CP]comunity, and see if anybody else could test my theory. I am sure others running D-2 have noticed similar instances where they could not re-start D-2 until a server shutdown or certain clients leave. If these events prove to be sound, then maybe we could pass the info on to YoChoy and/or Crow King and Shockwave.
If you don't already have All Seeing Eye, you can grab it at All Seeing Eye http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/
when you right click on your server, a menu comes up. Go to server properties, and enter your Rcon password. From here, you can run ANY rcon command without having to be in the server. Great for monitoring team matches. You can sit back, run your dumpuser quietly as an observer, and make sure you get the names spelled right.
Hope this helps someone.
Parrot(CA)
Confederate Armada www.confederatearmada.com