How to detect the @¤#"! cheaters

[Green]

Hi all!

We are running a server ([HB]Sniper Server) and have some problems with cheaters... :( Last night there were 2 idiots have around 90-5 in points. They probebly used "no Walls" cos everyone were shot when we stuck our head out... Is there anyway to detect this?

Thanks

/Green(SWE)

[Hi_pING]

Best way to detect a suspected wall hack is to use the "see every where" skin yourself in spec, It will let you see whats behind the walls, if they are not cheating you will know right away, less then a minute, If they are cheating it will take longer,

I have seen folks throw nades over a wall that has players on the other side,, but they never throw if knowone is there, infact they put them back, example the hunt. but is this enough proof, so it takes longer to realy be sure, for example the dumb ones will follow with thier gun when a player is running on the other side of a wall then shoot when he is in the door,

But thier are smart ones, and it takes me about 20 minutes to be sure, I would hate to kick someone for being suspect. I need to be sure, but again if they are not cheating you will see in less then a minute, so far knowone has come back and asked why they got kicked.

I once spect the last two in the bridge...lmao they both had a wall cheat and played cat and mouse for 2 minutes.. even ran the other way when they "saw" grenades in the enemy hands, the looser complained the victor had a wall hack.... hmmmm could it be that cheaters know who is cheating and we should watch the guy who yells cheater.

I wish I could give more pointers of useing this method but it takes practice, training and sacrafice of game time to be 100% sure.

One word of caution if you use the cheats to detect a cheat make sure your skin filter is off, save yourself some explaining.

[ClickBouyow]

Best way to detect a suspected wall hack is to use the "see every where" skin yourself in spec, It will let you see whats behind the walls, if they are not cheating you will know right away, less then a minute, If they are cheating it will take longer,

I have seen folks throw nades over a wall that has players on the other side,, but they never throw if knowone is there, infact they put them back, example the hunt. but is this enough proof, so it takes longer to realy be sure, for example the dumb ones will follow with thier gun when a player is running on the other side of a wall then shoot when he is in the door,

But thier are smart ones, and it takes me about 20 minutes to be sure, I would hate to kick someone for being suspect. I need to be sure, but again if they are not cheating you will see in less then a minute, so far knowone has come back and asked why they got kicked.

I once spect the last two in the bridge...lmao they both had a wall cheat and played cat and mouse for 2 minutes.. even ran the other way when they "saw" grenades in the enemy hands, the looser complained the victor had a wall hack.... hmmmm could it be that cheaters know who is cheating and we should watch the guy who yells cheater.

I wish I could give more pointers of useing this method but it takes practice, training and sacrafice of game time to be 100% sure.

One word of caution if you use the cheats to detect a cheat make sure your skin filter is off, save yourself some explaining.

You can also use Delator or Counter Intelligence. Either of them detect those type of cheats and automatically ban the scum. I run Counter Intelligence (even advertise it in my server name) and have little problem with cheaters. They know that they are being watched.

[Hi_pING]

yes, we as well run CI and I love it and trust it .... to a degree, it will kick players that have unautorised skins as well as an option of playing with only authorized skins... but what happens is that a cheater can rename his cheat skin into a stock name, infact the first "glowing skin" released had the stock name allied_pilot.

Infact since I also had that skin for cheat detecting, anyone with allied_pilot would show up for me as the modified glowing cheat, my allied_pilot was overwritten. This caused a big problem. knowone was cheating, the skin I had caused this,

So please dont take me wrong CI is good, and it will keep out cheating noobs. but if you rely on it or other detectors alone you are
administrating with false security, alot of manual dessisions and observations need to be made to operate as cheat free as possible.

[ClickBouyow]

yes, we as well run CI and I love it and trust it .... to a degree, it will kick players that have unautorised skins as well as an option of playing with only authorized skins... but what happens is that a cheater can rename his cheat skin into a stock name, infact the first "glowing skin" released had the stock name allied_pilot.

Infact since I also had that skin for cheat detecting, anyone with allied_pilot would show up for me as the modified glowing cheat, my allied_pilot was overwritten. This caused a big problem. knowone was cheating, the skin I had caused this,

So please dont take me wrong CI is good, and it will keep out cheating noobs. but if you rely on it or other detectors alone you are
administrating with false security, alot of manual dessisions and observations need to be made to operate as cheat free as possible.

I agree, that is why I don't hesitate to kick and ban people that I even "suspect" of cheating. Some get annoyed, but there it is. Either they are extremely good at the game (which means they need to be playing on some other server) or they are cheating (in which case they deserve what they got).

I followed someone the other day that exhibited all of the signs of an aimbot. (neither CI nor Delator detected it). His movement was erradic. His aim was jerky. He could turn 180 degrees and lock onto a target. He had 1 shot kills - always. I kicked him. He came back. I told him that he was cheating. Using and aimbot. He denied it of course. So I banned him perminantly. I don't have time for such nonsense, and I suppose the rest of us don't either. If there is truly a mistake, then email the admin and state your case. I, personally, will probably not change my decision. But then again, it is MY server.

What CI and Delator do, though, it make it easier to administer the server. Kicking and banning are a lot easier. Also, like you said, it gets the n00b hackers. But CI and MOHAdmin, and Delator are getting more sophisticated, so it is getting harder to defeat them. Especially with the no-fog/wall hacks. With the new release of CI and MAM, it is virtually impossible to defeat it.

[Green]

Is there any way to detect aimbot? With a program?

[claymore]

MOHAACI, is without question the best anti-cheat software available, if you have a server then get it running on that server, its easy to install and very user friendly, removes spaces in players names automaticaly and can force skins on players who enter the server with unauthorised skins, http://www.invisiblewarriors.com/team/index.php

[Green]

:o hehe, i just downloaded it.. but i can't get it to work :( We "normaly" use C K Autokick and have TFO's map fixes and force the skins with it.
But i can't get CI to work. I can press ServerInfo and get info from server so the RCON work.
But when i try to start i get a error message (Run Time Error 76 - path not found). Any ideas?

Thanks

[ClickBouyow]

Is there any way to detect aimbot? With a program?

Well, Delator and CI detect the lame one that is out there. But the best way is to just follow the guy around and watch what he does. Here is a good description of what aimbots are and what to look for:

http://www.digdilem.org/ut/aimbot.html