Delator 2.0.0.7 is out

[YoChoyLaMuete]

That's it :D

RconDelator: 2.0.0.7
ModDelator: 2.0.0.3

This version is not thorouhly tested. Make a backup of your existing install before upgrading.

Download at:
http://cealweb.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=20
http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator20.zip

Upgrading instructions:
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In order to keep your former 2.0.0.6 configuration:

- As said, make a backup copy of your previous install.
- Overwrite both .exe's and the help file with the new ones.
- Double click rcondelator.ini (it will open on Notepad). Go to the end of the text and paste this:

[code:1]01604Ping Kick: Ping>$ping on $scans consecutive scans - Player: $name[/code:1]

Do not paste it on a new line!

Features for this version:
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(I'm sorry, I can't find the name of some of the people who suggested these features)

- MacIntosh Fix! (I hope!!)
- Warns/kicks/bans lists can now be sorted by clicking the column title (only ascending order so far).
- Delator now generates a new file, activity.log, that should be helpful to diagnose any errors; anyways...
- Included new fixes that should make the app more stable.
- Optimized code on ModDelator pk3 (pointed out by Andre Rivotti)
- High pings kick (tsch!) - a feature that I personally dislike, but was so eagerly awaited by you all 8)
- In-game banning!! (a feature developed by Buzz Litebeer)

To use in-game banning, type into the game console rcon set clientban nn where nn is the client number to be banned, or rcon set clientban "nn@whatever-the-reason" if you want to specify a certain reason for the ban (on Spearhead you can't use spaces to describe the reason, I think).

This acomplishes two main goals: you don't have to go back to desktop in order to ban a player AND any admin with rcon access can ban a player even if he's not running Delator on his box. As said, thank Buzz Litebeer for the whole idea.

Let me know how it works, specially about the mac issue, since I have no way to try that.

Regards,

YoChoy

[PMOHJonesin]

OK< I seem to be having a bit of a time setting up the private skins. I have added our clan name [PMOH] and our private slot PW that people use console (console command "password abcdefg") to enter our server. I have added all the reserved skins and I'm getting everybody kicked EXCEPT for those with spaces in their names which it's not scanning because of dumpuser and Spearhead if I'm correct. I have read and re-read the help file and I know I'm setting it up right. Am I an idiot or what? :)

I have not enabled the private/public slot scanning as we have more private clients than private slots, would that have anything to do with it?

[1RINeO]

Fantastic YoChoyLaMuete
Congratulations, it's cool.
:D :D :D []

[ClickBouyow]

I am getting a Runtime error type missmatch "13" every 20 minutes or so. I have to restart Delator. Anyone else have that problem? I am running ServerWatch as well.

Update: It crashes to runtime error 13 on map change. Every time.

[SNYPE]

YoChoy, you gave instructions to upgrade from 2.0.0.6 to 2.0.0.7. What about going from 2.0.0.5 to 2.0.0.7? I tried the same method and it didnt work, do I need 2.0.0.6 first or should I just uninstall/reinstall?

[1RINeO]

YoChoyLaMuete

This version 2.0.0.7
I am getting a Runtime error type missmatch "13" every time

Regard's

[Defiant]

guess i better get my question in before this turns into a 21 page post like the last one,lol.

first,everytime i click on ak-importer i get a run time error "53",what did i do wrong?

also,how do you set the ping limit?it says to copy and paste to end of line in rcon delator ini. but the only thing i saw was rcon delator configuration, which is where i put it,am i wrong?,if not, again,how do i set the ping limit?

one more,what command do i put in to ban from console,console is enabled,i type rcon set clientban "5".....nothing happens,i have tried variations, but none seem to work...

the help file in the folder is the same as the one in 2.0.0.6 and doesnt say anything about 2.0.0.7,any help would be appreciated

by the way my ban and kick list from Delator is so full its pathetic,tickles the piss out of me every time i look at it,lol

GOOD JOB

[adminhenk]

I get a runtime error '9' when it is listing the 2nd player.
I noticed this when i did status on console:
(First 3 slots were empty)

num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
3 166 83 [SDAM]SMALLE 0 195.215.248.38:-31507 10933 25000
4 166 80 Odin 0 217.215.115.129:-3217027734 25000

Notice the huge negative port: -3217027734
Regards

[ClickBouyow]

Ok. I have had Delator 2.0.0.7 running with DMzDogtag and ModDelator for several hours now. No crashes. I cleaned out ALL the non-standard .pk3 files except for the realism patch. I have not had a crash with it since. I think there are compatibility issues with other mods, but I am not sure which one. I will continue to add stuff until I figure it out.

[Ruiner]

YoChoyLaMuete
To use in-game banning, type into the game console rcon set clientban nn where nn is the client number to be banned, or rcon set clientban "nn@whatever-the-reason" if you want to specify a certain reason for the ban

Question about this:

If i run Delator from my home computer, and our other server admin on the other side of the country ban's somebody, does the ban show up in the bans.lst on my comp? Or is this now a server side file?

[ClickBouyow]

[quote]YoChoyLaMuete
If i run Delator from my home computer, and our other server admin on the other side of the country ban's somebody, does the ban show up in the bans.lst on my comp? Or is this now a server side file?

I believe it will only be on the computer that the ban originated. You would have to manually copy it to your bans list.

[blasney]

Great news, YoChoy, thanks a lot! I like the in game banning feature. I'm gonna have my brother jump on our server with my mac right now to see if he gets bounced!

[Tripped]

With the in game banning it shouldnt just be in that computer that banned it Im not sure about it being a server side or on the puter that you have delator running.
Ill check it out

[blasney]

Unfortunately, it still bounces the Mac version out. Here is the log:


1/23/2003 4:15:45 PM Cheat Detected!! Player: >F|H< Blasney Cheat: NoFog(Clearview) IP: 1.2.3.4
1/23/2003 4:15:46 PM Cheat Detected!! Player: >F|H< Blasney Cheat: Modified binaries!! IP: 1.2.3.4
1/23/2003 4:15:49 PM 1.2.3.4 was banned from this server on 1/23/2003. Reason: 2 accumulated kicks


I would love to work with you on this issue if you would like. You can get me on AOL IM as "siegzdad" or msn at climiek@hotmail.com if you need someone with a mac to help out.

I love the in-game ban though. Great Job!!!

[ClickBouyow]

After a great deal of testing, I think there is still a dumpuser problem. I get a Type Mismatch Runtime Error 13 ALL the time followed by a program crash. Upon restart, it says the program is already running, however, there is no listing for it in the processes. I can't use it at all. It works fine, as long as no one is on the server.

I am running it on a P4 1.8 ghz system with 1 meg of ram. I have running with it Dogtags DMz and ModDelator. Nothing else. I do hope this can be fixed. It is by far the most promising of the bunch. But as it is now, it is unusable.

[Tripped]

ok after a quick look there is an activity file that the clientban logs in that is not where it saves the ban but it is showing it sees it there. I just delete everything from that file and rerun delator and it shows up again so it does save the commands in the mod it looks like.

[ClickBouyow]

Maybe I missed something. Is delator able to run on the same server as the game? I have been running it that way and it always crashes. I tried tonight running it on a different machine, and it is running fine.

[Slain]

I am running it on a P4 1.8 ghz system with 1 meg of ram.

May want to pick up some more RAM. That might be it.

[esik_dirk]

i would like to just say that YoChoy you are one dedicated guy. I appreciate all the hard work you put in along with all other anticheat developers. I have encountered a lot of bugs in 2.0.0.7 delator, but i know you will be able to fix them, since it is only a beta. A problem i have been having trouble with is that the modified binaries box refuses to be checked. I dont know why, and maybe i am just crazy and it is only happening to me. If i do get it checked finally, it will report an error 35600. These are minor to me, YoChoy take your time fixing the bugs, sit back relax and enjoy some beers.

dirk

[BlackLion]

I get runtime error 13 type mismatch!

when I try to run rcondelator!

[BlackLion]

I have got him now!

I got first installed it @ the other version, then I get the error
now I have delete the previous version, en installed the new one, and it works!

great,

YoChoyLaMuete thanks!

I saw yet another cheat what can be added to newconfig file!
this one seta no_light 1 (I don't know exactly)
but can you add this one to in your prog. as a cheat?
so it can detect when somebody use that cheat?

[ClickBouyow]

I have got him now!

I got first installed it @ the other version, then I get the error
now I have delete the previous version, en installed the new one, and it works!

great,

YoChoyLaMuete thanks!

I saw yet another cheat what can be added to newconfig file!
this one: seta no_light 1 (I don't know exactly)
but can you add this one to in your prog. as a cheat?
so it can detect when somebody use that cheat?

I did a complete clean install. Still get the runtime 13 error. It works ok if I run it on a separate machine. Still, I don't want two machines running just to host a game.

[ClickBouyow]

I am running it on a P4 1.8 ghz system with 1 meg of ram.

May want to pick up some more RAM. That might be it.

Boy, that was a slip. I meant 1 gig. Oh well. . .

[SNYPE]

ClickBouyow--one thing you need to realize is that many people admin servers differently. The majority of the large dedicated servers run from server host companies that run multiple instances of the game on a single server. The addition of multiple instances of admin programs would bring those servers to a crawl.
In your case, if your dedicated to running a server I would invest a little time and $ and pick up a used box somewhere, upgrade it a little and run the admin tools from your network. That is what most admins do and that is why all of these programs work remotely. I run all admin tools from a different machine, I dont want to steal any cpu cycles from the server itself.

[ClickBouyow]

ClickBouyow--one thing you need to realize is that many people admin servers differently. The majority of the large dedicated servers run from server host companies that run multiple instances of the game on a single server. The addition of multiple instances of admin programs would bring those servers to a crawl.
In your case, if your dedicated to running a server I would invest a little time and $ and pick up a used box somewhere, upgrade it a little and run the admin tools from your network. That is what most admins do and that is why all of these programs work remotely. I run all admin tools from a different machine, I dont want to steal any cpu cycles from the server itself.

So they are meant to work remotely? OK. I can do that. I have access to the server and have been trying to run Delator there. But I will try it the other way.

Oh, and don't get me wrong! I truely appreciate all the work that everyone puts into these programs. But there are many of us that don't have the $ to buy another machine just to run anti-cheat software. I could probably scrounge up something, but it is not likely to be much good. I know that CI has a server and client, does that mean there needs to be a server for the game, a server for the anti-cheat and a workstation for the client? I am beginning to lose all respect for EA Games and idSoftware. That really sucks. Maybe EPIC can help them sort out their cheating problem.

[Ruiner]

I'm most interested in the rcon ban feature, and hopefully (coming soon hopefully) the ability to kick people with spaces in their names(spearhead) or to automatically force them a name change....

I had 2.0.0.7 running fine last night for about 15 minutes, then the runtime error 9 kept popping up, i don't know why but it started happening after the server filled up. (fyi - i stopped .7 and started .6 [using zzzzz-delator from .3] and .6 would run without getting the error)

In that 15 minute window when it was working i tried using the rcon ban...i didn't have enough time to thoroughly test it however....but i couldn't get it working. I checked the activity file and the ban i entered was in there, but the client did not get banned, there was no record of his ip, etc

I'll experiment with .7 some more this evening, but right now we went back to .6 since it's been a great addition to our server, and very stable too (only incredibly huge negative port #'s crash it).

Thanks,

[Tripped]

With the runtime 9 error I had the same problem. what happened was i had shot delator down before the ban took affect. then when i started it back up the mod in the server sent that request again to the delator program and thats when you get the error. just install a fresh copy of the mod you made onto the server and that will clear that up

[1RINeO]

I'm making downgrade in delator 2.0.0.7 to 2.0.0.6 because it's have many problems.

I'm waiting new version...

Regard's

[Outlaw-BLue]

I have no problems with the program, I run the client from my pc at home and barrysworld host the pk3 on our server. I've never seen any of the errors you report. so maybe it's something your doing wrong ?

[SNYPE]

So they are meant to work remotely? OK. I can do that. I have access to the server and have been trying to run Delator there. But I will try it the other way.

Oh, and don't get me wrong! I truely appreciate all the work that everyone puts into these programs. But there are many of us that don't have the $ to buy another machine just to run anti-cheat software. I could probably scrounge up something, but it is not likely to be much good. I know that CI has a server and client, does that mean there needs to be a server for the game, a server for the anti-cheat and a workstation for the client?

The most efficient way to use most of these programs is to have them run on another computer, most of them are using rcon anyway. Autokick and Delator should be run from another machine other than the server if you have that capability. As far as CI, I havent used it yet but I would assume that the server portion runs on the game server, the client portion you would run remotely just like the others.
Another benefit to having a second machine to just run your admin tools is that you dont have to stop and exit your game to bring up the tool if you need to check on someone. I have an old broken w98 laptop that runs Autokick and I can just turn my head and use Autokick when I need to.

[Benman]

I get a runtime error '9' when it is listing the 2nd player.
I noticed this when i did status on console:
(First 3 slots were empty)

num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
3 166 83 [SDAM]SMALLE 0 195.215.248.38:-31507 10933 25000
4 166 80 Odin 0 217.215.115.129:-3217027734 25000

Notice the huge negative port: -3217027734
Regards

Same here, i already stated that problem in an earlier version. But after upgrading to version 7 it still "crashes" on those negative 10-digit ports, making it almost worthless on full servers. The fuller they get, the bigger the chance of getting someone in with a negative 10-digit port and Delator will crash. :(

[plopje]

I have a macintosh comp and my clan is running the program now and its kicking me all the time , so I cant play anymore on the clanserver or they need to shut the program down. Hope you get this prob fixed[/quote]

[YoChoyLaMuete]

PMOHJonesin:
OK< I seem to be having a bit of a time setting up the private skins. I have added our clan name [PMOH] and our private slot PW that people use console (console command "password abcdefg") to enter our server

Sorry, definately there's something wrong about password/tag case here. However it should be easy to fix and I'll do it asap.

ClickBouyow:
I am getting a Runtime error type missmatch "13" every 20 minutes or so. I have to restart Delator. Anyone else have that problem? I am running ServerWatch as well.
Update: It crashes to runtime error 13 on map change. Every time.

Thanks, currently I'm trying to reproduce it using the source code.

SNYPE:
YoChoy, you gave instructions to upgrade from 2.0.0.6 to 2.0.0.7. What about going from 2.0.0.5 to 2.0.0.7? I tried the same method and it didnt work, do I need 2.0.0.6 first or should I just uninstall/reinstall?

You should update your ini with the intructions for 2.0.0.6 and then for 2.0.0.7 - However, since people is having a lot of troubles with this, I think the safest way should be a clean install (you can copy/paste your custom messages from the previous version).

Defiant:
first,everytime i click on ak-importer i get a run time error "53",what did i do wrong?

also,how do you set the ping limit?it says to copy and paste to end of line in rcon delator ini. but the only thing i saw was rcon delator configuration, which is where i put it,am i wrong?,if not, again,how do i set the ping limit?

one more,what command do i put in to ban from console,console is enabled,i type rcon set clientban "5".....nothing happens,i have tried variations, but none seem to work...

the help file in the folder is the same as the one in 2.0.0.6 and doesnt say anything about 2.0.0.7,any help would be appreciated

1.- Err 53 means some file is missing. Check they are already on the same folder and none of them is renamed.

2.- On the 'Server Management' tab, right under "Warn on non-optimized..."

3.- Your command is correct. The ban is applied the next time Delator patrols the server (the short scan), so you should wait some seconds until the scan is acomplished. It then adds the ban you set on console to his own list, and consequently the player is kicked. If it's not kicking people you should check the value of "clientban" on the server to verify it's indeed set (with "rcon clientban"). When Delator patrols the server it also resets the clientban value to "", so you should check it before the scan happens.

4.- Thanks for the heads up! I wrote the whole new file and then I forgot to put it on the release! :rolleyes:

adminhenk:
I get a runtime error '9' when it is listing the 2nd player.
I noticed this when i did status on console:
(...)
Notice the huge negative port: -3217027734

Damn... I have just found it!!!!! It's not a huge, negative, port number, but for some reason the status for that player doesn't include a space between port number and qport number!!! so it looks like a single, loooooooong number. This requires further study, so that Delator can check if the output is fine or requires further processing. Thanks, I'm already working on it :)

ClickBouyow (again :D)
Ok. I have had Delator 2.0.0.7 running with DMzDogtag and ModDelator for several hours now. No crashes. I cleaned out ALL the non-standard .pk3 files (...) I think there are compatibility issues with other mods, but I am not sure which one.

Really, other mods shouldn't be relevant on Rcondelator errors, since they are mostly VB errors due to wrong operations when dealing with strings.

Ruiner:
If i run Delator from my home computer, and our other server admin on the other side of the country ban's somebody, does the ban show up in the bans.lst on my comp? Or is this now a server side file?

Yep, it's indeed added to your Delator list, with the reason stated on the ban (if any, else it's logged as "Admin.Ban")

blasney:
Unfortunately, it still bounces the Mac version out

Sorry, just checked the source code and there was indeed an error :(, but don't worry the new version should be out soon (I would like to include some additional fixes for some of the most common errors on this version).

Tripped:
ok after a quick look there is an activity file that the clientban logs in that is not where it saves the ban but it is showing it sees it there.

The activity.log file is only intended to debug program errors, however you can see there what your server outputted the last time it was scanned.

ClickBouyow:
Maybe I missed something. Is delator able to run on the same server as the game? I have been running it that way and it always crashes. I tried tonight running it on a different machine, and it is running fine.

As long as the server is dedicated, there should be no problem (in fact, that's how I do my tests).

esik-dirk:
A problem i have been having trouble with is that the modified binaries box refuses to be checked. I dont know why, and maybe i am just crazy and it is only happening to me. If i do get it checked finally, it will report an error 35600

(thanks for your previous comments ;) ). I think this is something related to your install. I have already tried it and I can check/uncheck modified binaries without any problems, nor have I seen other reports referred to this. Try a clean install and let me know.

BlackLion:
I got first installed it @ the other version, then I get the error
now I have delete the previous version, en installed the new one, and it works! (...) I saw yet another cheat what can be added to newconfig file!
this one: seta no_light 1

Yep, updating an old ini file can be tricky, anyone having problems with this should try to run a new, clean install. About the no_light thing, I think I've already tried it and saw no difference in the game. Bear in mind that this should be sent to all the players on every scan, so increasing the server load. Unless it's related to some cheat in some way, probably I want add it (further info is very welcome! :D)

[/quote]

[Benman]

Running the new version and it runs fine....but.......
Noticed today, been playing all day, about 8 hours...........Delator crashed 2 times, exactly at mapchanges. I think it gives the message: "runtime 13 error". And i am sure it crashes at mapchange cause i heard the windows-error-ping.
I think when Delator is dumpusering the gamers on the server right at the moment of a mapchange it errors out.

[ClickBouyow]

Thanks YoChoy for getting back to us. I did notice that there is still a Dumpuser problem. I will get the runtime 13 error if I have someone ont he server with 3 or more blank spaces in their names. Crashes to the desktop. I am running it on a separate machine now away from the game server, so that problem is solved. When I run it on the same machine, it crashes every 20 minutes.

When it does crash with the runtime error, upon restart it gives the message that there is already a copy of Delator running. There is no evidence of it in the Processes or Applications list. Could Delator be hanging on to memory allocation?

I ran it all this past weekend and I had 5 failures on Saturday and 3 on Sunday. All due to dumpuser.

I hope this helps,

[adminhenk]

YoChoyLaMuete, thanks for anwsers man, I think everyone here appreciates it here.

I have a few more things. If delators finds someone who is banned, the player gets kicked. $ip was banned from this server.....
I figured it would be nice if the kick message could include the players name, instead of his ip address.

I tried it, but then delator just says: "$name was banned on this server...."

Maybe you could add this to a future version.

Regards.

[adminhenk]

The ingame clientbanning doesnt seem to work on my linux server.
If I do: rcon set clientban 2 and verify it: rcon "clientban" returns: "clientban" is:"2" default:"7"

Then i wait for delator to scan again, on the console i can see it preforms the command clientban. Nothing happens, the clientban value stays 2, and number 2 didnt get banned & kicked.

activity.log shows:
Rcon request:
set clientban ""
Rcon output:
usage: set <variable> <value>

Regards.

[Ruiner]

YoChoyLaMuete
About the no_light thing, I think I've already tried it and saw no difference in the game.

If this is r_light_nolight i as well can see no difference it makes to the game (spearhead anyway) and as a matter of fact it can even be changed on-the-fly while in game - most other's return a "cheat protected" refusal. It came up in a recent clan match we had against WTF so i did all i could to figure it out, and it doesn't seem to be a cheat.

Thanks for the answers and continued support, greatly appreciated!

[YoChoyLaMuete]

Benman:
I think when Delator is dumpusering the gamers on the server right at the moment of a mapchange it errors out.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll check for that :)

Click:
I will get the runtime 13 error if I have someone ont he server with 3 or more blank spaces in their names.
Could Delator be hanging on to memory allocation?

1.- Three consecutive spaces or three spaces like in "a b c d"?
2.- Nope, when Delator connects to a server it setups a cvar (sv_delator). When it disconnects, it resets it. If it hangs before desconnecting, the cvar is not reset and you see the "already monitored" error :)

adminhenk:
I figured it would be nice if the kick message could include the players name, instead of his ip address.
The ingame clientbanning doesnt seem to work on my linux server

1.- Yep, but most probably that wasn't the banned player. I mean, when he returns to your server, most of the time he will be using a different name. If players read the former name, they will think Delator is crazy. If the admin reads the current name, he himself can get crazy trying to find that name on the history list. But maybe an IP/name combo could do the trick...

2.- Yep too. I just realized ingame banning doesn't work on Spearhead, for the same reason dumpuser doesn't work: the quotes are deleted when used on a rcon petition. But I think unlike dumpuser, I can fix this. I will try 8)

Regards,

YoChoy

[Green_Falcon]

Getting better every time when will Delator x going to be released, the next revision???

[SharpTOM]

Run time error 13 seems to occur along with Index 35600 out of bounds when updating the player list. It just gets "stuck" on a player then stops working, I get the windows ping and I need to restart it. This can happen every minute or so, or wait for a day or to happen.

Whenever I boot the player it last read or the one after him, the scanner will be able to be restarted without any problems. He can then rejoin sometimes and cause no further problems.

:?:

[ThorGoLucky]

1. I too am experiencing the Modified Binaries checkbox that automatically unchecks itself, even after a fresh installation.

2. The rconpassword changes often due to matches; but when the rconpassword is changed out from under Delator, it halts with error "Run-Time error '9': Subscript out of range" when it attempts a scan with the old rconpassword.

Gracias

[ThorGoLucky]

I recommend the following default message for non-optimized connections:

$name, your connection is not optimized. Press F2 and verify your net connection speed (T1, DSL, modem, etc.)

I found that this message helps avoid confusion and prompts the user to quickly fix the problem on their own.

[lego]

hi, <<new

got a problem ive got win xp pro and ive tryed runing the lastest delator but i dont think it is working at all?? as when i make a dedicated server and i get rcon delator to work with the server scans ect ect , ive joined the server and ive tryed my cheats skinz but it does not pick them up??? also when people r on my server should delator show who they r at the bottom of rcon delator as i find it does not??? not sure if its me or what???

has any1 esle had this by the sounds of things no?!

can someone plz help