The Delator 2.0 Thread

[ZteFanO]

pleaze do a good job and resolve this Mac user prob

I u need the .pk3 to scan we can send them to u

[BN-BN] Zte F@n O


MAC FOREVER!!!

[ReDrUm]

By the way, my modified binaries in delator is NOT checked but the cheats are coming up with mod binaries anyway along with the no fog cheat. I think these may be the mac people..not sure why it still shows mod binaries when it is not checked.

thanks,
redrum

[handgrenade]

HolyCow! what a post....

I havent had any luck getting my Mac clan user to give a lot of support. He is just busy, i guess (arent we all), but cant give you to much more in that department. I think its time he moved to a PC anyway.... ;)

About Delator 2 skipping the scan when my server is full (all the time): any progress on what might be causing this? Possible to fix? Basically, I cant use Delator anymore because I am always at over 18 players or so......

Good to hear from ya, Yochoy!

-HG

[ReDrUm]

Mine does not skip and I have had over 25 players on...seems to work out okay.

redrum

[Cheule]

Redrum and I tried several things to see if we could work around this Mac issue.

It looks like I'm able to log in now with my Mac, and all I had to do was delete the file main>configs>unnamedsoldier.cfg . then when I relaunched MoH, the file was recreated by the game, with factory fresh settings. I then used the game's ingame menus to change my settings to what I liked. Then when I logged back into the server, I wasn't kicked for having a "fog cheat".

This could all have been pue coincidence, and perhaps something more than me nuking my config file solved the issue, but it's all I can figure.

Cheule

[Noctis]

Just a suggestion YoChoy.. the Retribution pack of cheats aren't picked up by Delator (we tested all of them, didn't even get the fog hack).

Anyway, I sent you a PM on a possible solution to this. If it works, they'll never know what hit them.

[thejerk]

HolyCow! what a post....

I havent had any luck getting my Mac clan user to give a lot of support. He is just busy, i guess (arent we all), but cant give you to much more in that department. I think its time he moved to a PC anyway.... ;)

About Delator 2 skipping the scan when my server is full (all the time): any progress on what might be causing this? Possible to fix? Basically, I cant use Delator anymore because I am always at over 18 players or so......

Good to hear from ya, Yochoy!

-HGThis happens to me as well. I lost rcon altogether when 17+ players are on the server. Just out of curiosity, who's your provider? Redrum, who's your provider? Mine's XGameServers and I think it has something to do with the way they set up their servers.

[Noctis]

Sorry to get off-topic, but I'm thinking of moving my server from XGS.

At first the Customer Support was great and the server ran great. Now we are having all sorts of problems and sometimes we have to wait days for a response from CS.

CyberSEALS.net seems to have good prices and a good backbone...

[ReDrUm]

Chickenboom,

Our provider is surewest (winfirst). A limited number of people are lucky enough to have their service because it is fiber optics to my home. I built and run the server from my home and it hauls butt. If anyone in sacramento has a connection with the same isp, believe it or not, they will have a ping of about 10! They are having some lagg routing issues now though that causes ping spikes here and there.

On an average night we have about 20-25 people playing and I only have the following problems with delator.

1. I cannot set it to scan and warn for all of the cheats first before it kicks. It will find and kick when I set it to scan and kick.

2. It shows no fog cheat and mod binaries for some mac users when they are not cheating. One guy just took out his unamedsoldier config and restarted game and it created a new one for him and now he can play...before it would boot him.

I am so impressed with the program!!! Thanks so much to the person who made it! Im sure Ill get the bugs worked out...prob something Im doing anyway LOL

redrum

[ReDrUm]

Okay...I see what you are saying. When my server is full, names still show on delator, but when i go in with cheats, it stops scanning because it will not kick me (it may scan one time but will not do it again). I was thinking it was working because it still had names in delator but it would not kick me for having no fog etc...Ill set it to scan every 3 min to see if that helps.

ReDrUm

[YoChoyLaMuete]

Padman:
Happy new year...!
Bit of a problem here, my banned ips have ALL gone for no reason (...)how could this have happened? I DO have a copy of them but dont know how to put them back.
For info I have only a bans.lst no Bans.txt ...should I?

I have only one entry in this bans.lst which does NOT show up as banned in the program

Happy New Year to you too :). Delator only clears that file when it's finished, and that's just before writing the updated list. So the only reason for this to happen should be a crash of the app at that point... Since your report is not the first about this, I will check again the source, obviously I'm missing something here... To restore your old file couldn't be easier, just replace the bans.lst on the delator folder with the one from your backup, but please, send me a copy of the current one (the one with the address which is not showing). You shouldn't have a bans.txt. If you don't have my email send me a pm.

Chickenboo:
Hey, Yo! Got a new one for ya... (...)In Mod Dealtor I have DogTags and Code both checked to be run.(...)it shows that ModD and DogTags are NOT running. Any idea why? (...) BTW, I edited the DM_Precache on all three mods (DogTags, Code and Delator) to be exactly the same and for them all to exec one another.

First type in console "versiondelator" and "dmzdogtagversion". If the server outputs "2.0" and "1.7b etc..." then the server is running them and Delator misses the check. If the output is "unknown command" or nothing at all, then check the delator.scr (not the DM_precache.scr!) into zzzzz-delator.pk3 contains these lines:

exec global/dmzdogtag.scr
exec global/codesecurity.scr

if they are indeed there, then Delator is not being launched for some reason (most probably, a DM_precache overwriting the Delator one). Since Dogtag and Delator are not running, the problem should be the DM_precache on Code Security. Try to remove that file from both DT and CS (they'll be launched by Delator).

Ztefano: I'm really sorry Mac users are being disturbed by Delator. I'm really eager to fix this. Assuming you haven't tried yet the fix by Redrum and Cheule, please launch your game and type in console:

cvarlist r_farplane

And tell me what it outputs. Grazie :)

Redrum:
I cannot set it to scan and warn for all of the cheats first before it kicks. It will find and kick when I set it to scan and kick (...) When my server is full, names still show on delator, but when i go in with cheats, it stops scanning because it will not kick me (it may scan one time but will not do it again)

So you have the penalty level set to warning and still it kicks people? If that's the problem, it should be easy to fix. About the second issue, I think it's more net related (something about the size of the packets makes status not work when there are too many players). Next time Delator misses the scan, type "rcon status" on the game console and check if it's working. If it is indeed, type "status" on miniconsole and check if the output is ok.

Predatorbako:
FYI, im my case when I got the error I was not running auto kick (...)
Yes that is a very elusive error. I don't think changing to the ocx will make a difference. Only solutions I have found were to ignore the error

Yes, I think one of the reasons for the Err.9 is getstatus returning an empty string, thus you get the error when Delator tries to find the current/next map. Since rcon petitions conflict between them, it's more probable to have it when running other rcon app simultaneously, but it can also happen for other reasons (server changing maps or busy with a gamespy/ASE petition). That's already fixed and I hope to post an update this evening (spanish evening, that is :D )
About the err 126, sad part is there's already an "on error resume next" statement on the network core, but I think it's on the getdata method, so I'll try to add it also on senddata and cross my fingers :)

Handgrenade:
Lo :) , please confirm status is working ok on mohaa with that amount of players and what miniconsole outputs when you type "status" at that point.

Noctis:
Already received, but don't put your hopes on it :(

Regards,

YoChoy

[Katana]

Yochoy,

after some time of running it and testing it without problems. the following thing happened. I saw a post on clanbase forum that barrysworld appearantly added support for delator2(minimal bases) so i thought well im gonna test that, so i wanted to start delator and connect to our server
But it gave me a error:

"The application OR DLL C;\windows\System32\msvbvm60.dll is not a valid windows image"

So i was thinking what the hell, nothing changed in my win XP installation but the dll file is modified and has a size of 0 bytes. so i downloaded a new dll and threw away the old one. and yes my moddelator is working again. but when i start up rcondelator again i get that oooo so famous system error again wich i had in the beginning when i started testing it.

I don't understand what happened here, nothing changed on my machine and nothing changed with the delator 2 map, i downloaded the file 2 times over to be sure it was the right version.


:?

[Katana]

system error is solved for unknown reasons, but as said by some people already the delator is running fine untill player nr 17 or 16 connects
then delator get's a "subscript out of range error"

??

[Nytemare]

Clicked on link to download, and it was broken...where can i get this?

[ripPajo]

Hmm, I dunno, maybe its just me, but I am finding this very, difficult to understand. I installed it, uploaded my generated mod. Started rcon delator, and it showed everyone on my server playing. However, it says Moddelator not running? I have read through this forum, but I just dont get what I am supposed to do to fix it? Is there something else I am supposed to upload to my server? I dont know, I am sure it's a great program, sure looks like it, but the old delator was so easy to use. I dont have that dog tag stuff running, ahhh, back to the ol one I guess unless someone can please help me and tell me what I am doing wrong?

ripPajo

[Noctis]

YoChoy...

The thread is soooooooo long =P

RconDelator keeps thinking my mac users are fog hacking.. Any fixes for this?

[Pedhead]

This program has been detecting AImbots, noFog and modified binaries on some of my legit players in my team. We've tried to figure out what the program is detecting that makes it think these things. The only thing I can think of is, will 30+ custom maps in the main folder be a factor? Is one of those maps bound to change some value that sets of the delator. Also, how about scope mods, gun skins, etc. set it off too?

Its really frustrating to the guys on my team to go into our server and immediately be called a cheater by this program. Its the same cheat everything. For one guy, its noFog and modified binaries. for the other guy, its Aimbot...whats goin on here?

[Cheule]

[quote] I'm really sorry Mac users are being disturbed by Delator. I'm really eager to fix this. Assuming you haven't tried yet the fix by Redrum and Cheule, please launch your game and type in console:

cvarlist r_farplane

And tell me what it outputs. Grazie :)


I logged back on to Redrum's server today, and I'm being spotted as a fog hack cheater, and I have not changed a single thing about my MoH setup. So whatever we thought we did to fix it, apparently we didn't fix it after all. I'm confused as to why i was able to play for a few hours last night with no problems.. hmmm.. Redrum was even on the server, and he was messing with delator's settings, so i know it was on.

YoChoy, as a Mac user myself, is there anything I can do to help you nail this down?

[Cheule]

YoChoy,

I did a cvarlist r_farplane in console on my Mac MoH v1.12, and this is what output:

C r_farplane_nofog "0"
C r_farplane_nocull "0"
C r_farplane_color ".5 .5 .5"
C r_farplane "0"
530 total cvars
530 cvar indexes

Hope that helps
Cheule

[Sgt_Pepper]

Hmm, I dunno, maybe its just me, but I am finding this very, difficult to understand. I installed it, uploaded my generated mod. Started rcon delator, and it showed everyone on my server playing. However, it says Moddelator not running? I have read through this forum, but I just dont get what I am supposed to do to fix it? Is there something else I am supposed to upload to my server? I dont know, I am sure it's a great program, sure looks like it, but the old delator was so easy to use. I dont have that dog tag stuff running, ahhh, back to the ol one I guess unless someone can please help me and tell me what I am doing wrong?

ripPajo

Did you restart your server after you uploaded the ModDelator? That might be the cause of your problem. Hope that helps.

[handgrenade]

For the guys wndering what game provider I use: I rent a linux box froma server farm in texas and admin the game myself. Best way to do it, really, if you are familiar with linux. This way I can make any changes I want anytime I want.

Yochoy: when the server is at or over 18 players or so, 'status' commands from the mini-console on Delator 2 dont return any values. under 17 or so players and 'status' works great.

-HG

[ripPajo]

Weird. i had restarted my server, and it showed it as not running. But now it is. maybe it just needed some time. But its working now, thanks.

ripPajo

[Benman]

I do think this one's important:

I had Delator erroring out on me while i was on the server. Heard the error-outsound, so i took a look. After that shutting down it ofcourse told me there already was a Delator running on the server when i did a restart. Did the set sv_delator 0 and it started again. But then again it errored out on me with this message: "Runtime error 9, Subscript out of range". Well, i tried above sequence a few times and i noticed it was able to check for the first 2 usernumbers ( 1 and 2 )and these were shown on the Delator-screen. The third user number did not show and it errored at that point.
So i went onto the server again and did a "rcon status" there to look if there was something strange with user #3. There where 20 users playing at that time.
And friggin, it sure showed something strange, the thing that drew my attention is the following:
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
3 5 62 uname 0 213.75.232.222:-3260223343 42920 5000 look at the port# ??
I did not even believe it myself so i did a few "rcon status". Results stayed the same.

That user left and it functioned fine with about 18 players on the server. When he came back after a while with 14 players on the server, Delator errored out again. "Rcon status" again showed that long negative port#, don''t know if it was the same, but it was also 10 digits long. Stupiddest thing was he returned and got the same user#, #3, i rather had like to see him getting 10....then i could have checked if Delator errored out at # 10.
I do know sometimes ports show negative numbers, even 1 of our clan shows negative in a "status" , but Delator doesn't crash on his.
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
1 5 62 uname2 0 213.75.222.223:-32613 42920 5000
On this negative port# it doesn not error out.

Maybe this is of some help.?

[ReDrUm]

I have been watching my delator all day lol

Gosh I am weird i guess.

Anywayz, what I have found it is when there are 10 of fewer people playing on my server i can have it set scan players every 2 minutes. When it went to 15 players I had to set it to 3 minutes and it would cycle through okay. Then, when I had 20 pleayers i had a hard time even getting the names to show up let alone scan them. I define scan players as when I see that when the names go away and refresh again. When I was able to get the names to show with 20 players it would not cycle through the scan even when set to 8 minutes. I haev read other posts here and see that others are having the same kind of problem. Has anyone come up with a fix for that yet?

thanks so much..I hope my ignorance doesn't confuse what I am trying to say too much :)

redrum

[CFH666]

Another thing the Redrum and I found out while messing with it the other day, is this rcash error : 35600 Index Out of Bounds.

I noticed that when i changed all of my honesty config settings to 1, it would pick up about 6 different cheats.

At that time I had Delator running on my own computer (not redrums aka the server, although he had the same problem. I had the penalties all on warning, and to kick after 3 warnings.

Well, delator would pick up about 6 cheats, then crash right after. (I dont remeber if I got kicked before it crashed)

Anyways, I set the number of warnings before it kicks to a higher valu (9 to be exact) and it worked fine. I think its similiar to having the RATE set higher then 30000..

I just set the # of warnings per kick to a great value then the number of cheats I got warned for, and it worked fine.

We are still having some issues. Redrum has mentioned those.

[tFp] 6

[GameNutt]

I have WinXP Home, and I'm getting the same crash error 35600 message frequently. I have run Delator 2 with autokick both on and off, still same thing happens. I have much less frequently encountered runtime error 9, but it has happened a few times.

I have to start it again and type 'sv_delator 0'. Then it will run for 5 mins to several hours and crash again with the 35600 message. Any ideas ?

Also, when it crashes, it clears the screen of all warnings, kicks, and bans. The log file is still intact tho. Is there a way for it to check the log and fill in the warnings/kicks screen automatically? If not, how can I do that manually?

Thanks YoChoy for your hard work on a great program, even with the kinks. I love it and know it will only improve...

:)

[predatorbako]

I got a new error: run-time error '5' Invalid procedure or argument. Here is the ss of the error http://www.teamtrk.us/ss/errorrt5.jpg

thanks

[Mercenary]

I have to start it again and type 'sv_delator 0'. Then it will run for 5 mins to several hours and crash again with the 35600 message. Any ideas
I got this problem also, but it ran for a week just fine?

I hope to get the answer soon, because we have plenty of cheaters logged, and don't want them to return.
Temperarly using DMZ scanner now.

[305_Panzer]

Ok Im running the new version of Delator, but it will not pick up chameleon bob cheat. Is there anything to do to detect that cheat?

[Barre]

I do think this one's important:

I had Delator erroring out on me while i was on the server. Heard the error-outsound, so i took a look. After that shutting down it ofcourse told me there already was a Delator running on the server when i did a restart. Did the set sv_delator 0 and it started again. But then again it errored out on me with this message: "Runtime error 9, Subscript out of range". Well, i tried above sequence a few times and i noticed it was able to check for the first 2 usernumbers ( 1 and 2 )and these were shown on the Delator-screen. The third user number did not show and it errored at that point.
So i went onto the server again and did a "rcon status" there to look if there was something strange with user #3. There where 20 users playing at that time.
And friggin, it sure showed something strange, the thing that drew my attention is the following:
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
3 5 62 uname 0 213.75.232.222:-3260223343 42920 5000 look at the port# ??
I did not even believe it myself so i did a few "rcon status". Results stayed the same.

That user left and it functioned fine with about 18 players on the server. When he came back after a while with 14 players on the server, Delator errored out again. "Rcon status" again showed that long negative port#, don''t know if it was the same, but it was also 10 digits long. Stupiddest thing was he returned and got the same user#, #3, i rather had like to see him getting 10....then i could have checked if Delator errored out at # 10.
I do know sometimes ports show negative numbers, even 1 of our clan shows negative in a "status" , but Delator doesn't crash on his.
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
1 5 62 uname2 0 213.75.222.223:-32613 42920 5000
On this negative port# it doesn not error out.

Maybe this is of some help.?

I have the same problem, every time there is a user with a negative port number my RconDelator get a "Runtime error 9, Subscript out of range" error. Not until I kick ;) those users the problem goes away..

[Benman]

Well, i guess we figured something out here, hehe ;)

[Cookie]

i notice there are alot more cheats out there that delator can't pick up, but what are some cheats and what do i look for to see if that cheat is being used. if there are some cheats that i need to download to see them being used by other players, then i would like someone to pm me and let me know where to get them....i know some skins can't be picked up, but i can tell who and when they are being used, because i have that skin downloaded......any ideas here....cause i suspect that a couple people are usign cheats that play regualry on my server, cause they have tested their skins out before, and i think they may have found a cheat that delator cannot detect

[Benman]

Cheats that can not be detected ?? There's no way to proof then that those guys are cheating.....but there's still a chance to get a strong suspicion......just follow them in spectator mode:
If you see them following players through walls.....you'll know.
If you see them shooting players everytime they turn around a corner.....they could be cheating. If it happens all the time....think yourself ?
I a suspected cheater is being accused of cheating(be careful with that !!)and he stops getting kills for some time.....well that gives me a strange feeling.

With other words, just follow a suspected cheater in spectatormode and you'll get a lot of information.

[YoChoyLaMuete]

Katana:
system error is solved for unknown reasons, but as said by some people already the delator is running fine untill player nr 17 or 16 connects then delator get's a "subscript out of range error"

The error no.9 will be further fixed on the next release of Delator (sorry, I said it should be available a pair of days ago, but I just had no time. It will be released today)

nytemare
Clicked on link to download, and it was broken...where can i get this?

http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator20.zip

noctis, Cheule:
RconDelator keeps thinking my mac users are fog hacking.. Any fixes for this?

YoChoy, as a Mac user myself, is there anything I can do to help you nail this down?

Unfortunately, the output of cvarlist was not what I expected. Can you tell me what the command "version" returns in console on a Mac? this way I could implement some kind of "Mc immunity" until I have it really fixed.

pedhead:
This program has been detecting AImbots, noFog and modified binaries on some of my legit players in my team. We've tried to figure out what the program is detecting that makes it think these things.

nofog alog with modified binaries means so far the player on your server is running a Mac (see previour reply). About the fake aimbot detection, Delator detects it based on the skins the aimbot uses, which are tiedie and german_oakleave. There's a legit version of german_oakleave (though less popular); maybe that player uses it - You can either disable aimbot detection or ask him to use a different skin (my advice is the second one, he could find problems on other servers even if they don't run delator if an admin reads "oakleave" on the dumpuser output).

handgrenade:
Yochoy: when the server is at or over 18 players or so, 'status' commands from the mini-console on Delator 2 dont return any values. under 17 or so players and 'status' works great.

When status is not working on Delator does it work on Mohaa console? I'm a bit puzzled about this, since other people appears to run it with as much as 25 players without problems (I have tried it with up to 16 players and worked fine).

ripPajo
Weird. i had restarted my server, and it showed it as not running. But now it is. maybe it just needed some time. But its working now, thanks.

UDP connections are inaccurate on itselves. If the app says the mod is not running when it should be ok, try typing "versiondelator" on the server console. If it returns "2.0" then everything is fine.

Benman
That user left and it functioned fine with about 18 players on the server. When he came back after a while with 14 players on the server, Delator errored out again

The problem is not the port being negative (usual) but the lenght of the number (which I had never seen anything like this!). I doubt he did it on purpose, but I will edit the port detection code to reflect this, since it could be exploited by malicious users ( :D I'm sounding as microsoft support!)

CFH666, Gamenutt
Another thing the Redrum and I found out while messing with it the other day, is this rcash error : 35600 Index Out of Bounds.

Also, when it crashes, it clears the screen of all warnings, kicks, and bans. The log file is still intact tho. Is there a way for it to check the log and fill in the warnings/kicks screen automatically? If not, how can I do that manually?

This is definitely related to the listview control (the one displaying players names, ips...). And explains why some people was loosing his bans, kicks, warnings lists. I will check the code, but most probably I'll migrate to another control on future versions. Until it's fixed, you all should keep a backup copy of these files (.lst). About importing data from the log, the easiest way is pasting all the offending IPs from the log on a text file (one per line) and then using the autokick importer (uh... page 10 on this thread I think). You can then edit the new ban.lst contents on notepad to reflect the reasons for some special ban.

305_panzer
Ok Im running the new version of Delator, but it will not pick up chameleon bob cheat. Is there anything to do to detect that cheat?

So far, disabling forced models is the only way to somehow stop them.

[Cookie]

Ok I was on a cheat website last night, in my quest to find information on how some cheaters avoid delator, and found a pretty interesting website, they have a couple threads on the forum that have ways for cheaters to avoid delator. I the the retribution cheat pack is not picked up by delator and there are a couple new cheat skins that use mohaa stock skins...These are edited Chamelion Skins Yellow+White. They force models on the german_winter1 and the allied_airborne. Delator does not pick it up. Also I know of a couple aimbots that they were talking about that Delator couldn't pick up either. Now I have these files is there is a way in the pk3 where we can detect them with delator...i also have the site, which i will not be stupid enough to post here...some may already know it, and some may not.....

[Pacote2k2]

YO!!!! Before relasing the new delator be sure to put a anti eagleview!!

its thie news mod that modifies the exe and stuff sio you can view form a ditance.... heck it out

Http://www.pacote2k3.kit.net/cheat/1.jpg

Http://www.pacote2k3.kit.net/cheat/2.jpg

[Pacote2k2]

No need!
:D

tested and got me

5/1/2003 13:26:07 Cheat Detected!! Player: .:BaG:. Pacote2k3 Testando Cheat: Modified binaries!! IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xx

rox

[Cookie]

yea i also seen the anti eagle view last night as well, i also know that the retribution cheat uses opengl hack which isnt detected yet. And one of the main ways they avoid delator is they encrypt their newconfig file....I also found out that they have a new cheat called Issisx to bypass forced models.

[Benman]

Yochoy, let Delator 2 reside in sytemtray please ;)

[YoChoyLaMuete]

On my way to version 2.1, I thought this features were worth a release on itselves, so here it is: RconDelator 2.0.0.6 (ModDelator is still 2.0.0.2):

* Logs kicks resulting from the ban list.
* New option: Scan on start. Now you can start Delator without it autoscaning the server (useful for sending a few commands via miniconsole)
* Restyled interface: Now it displays 8 players simultaneously. "Non-optimized connections" have moved to Server Management (previously clan managemen), and the main tab is now named "Main Setup".
* Commands on miniconsole prefixed with "rcon" now work fine. You can still type them without prefix, of course.
* Clan tags are no longer case sensitive.

And three of the most wanted fixes:

* The "Already monitored" window now lets you force connection by just clicking a button.
* New fixes for the Err 9 Out of range. Hopefully it will be totally fixed.
* Welcome, win98 users!! Err 126 is fixed also (well, I got it on my w98 system and now it's working fine, so I think it's fixed ;) )

You'll see the zip file is now half the size of previous versions. That's ok. I removed the Microsoft Common Controls from the release, since they must be already present on any windows system. Also, I think they could be causing some of the 35600 errors (conflicting versions).

Mod Delator is still the same binary, so you don't need to recompile your mod. A pair of fixes however:

* Fixed the version number. Now it reads 2.0.0.2 on the file properties tab.
* Further instructions on the "Additional Scripts" tab.

Upgrading instructions:
In order to use your former rcondelator.ini, you must do this:
- Double click it (it will open on notepad)
- Go to the end of the text and right after the last square type:

"1" (without quotes) - if you want Delator to start scanning right after running it (as it did formerly).
"0" (without quotes) - if you wan to initiate the scan by pressing the 'Start' button each time.

Also, you may like to remove the mscomctl.ocx shipped with previous versions, that should be into the Delator folder (don't delete it if it's anywhere else!!). Maybe that should help fixing the err 35600.

Regards,

YoChoy

P.D.: the help file has not been updated with the latest features, it still shows the old screens.
P.D.2: Updated the first post on the thread with both links.

[DPUK_Sylvester]

hello yust found this nice program Delator but i have the same problems as many of you (runtime error 9 out of range) or something like that

now i see the post above and think YES finaly but where can i download Rcon Delator 2.0.0.6

greetings

[GameNutt]

Goto page 1 of this forum topic, first post by YoChoy. The first link (filefront) isn't working yet...but the 2nd one listed is.

So far so good too, no errors yet YoChoy! :D Thanks!

[DPUK_Sylvester]

thanks :D

[JaySublime]

i have just got the updated version and i am still getting runtime error 9 please help, its only happening on my Barryserver :(

thanx
Jay

[305_Panzer]

Ok guys I have a Newbie question. What is Modified Binaries?

[Mercenary]

OKe the error "Runtime Error 35600 - Index out of bounds" is coming regular now. Does anybody know how to fix this or what it means?

We using it on 4 servers now, but they work a day or 2 okay and then keep crashing. :(

[Sgt_Pepper]

Great work YoChoy! Oh, and the Lonely Hearts Club Band is doing good, they've been going in and out of style, but their guarenteed to raise a smile:)

I have a question that I'm sure another could answer, how do i go about upgrading? Do I completely uninstall the previous version, and run the new one? Thanks for your help.

[ReDrUm]

So is anyone having the same problem I have had all along? It will not scan if my server is full. My server usually has between 18-25 players in the late afternoon and evening. I just does not scan when it is full. In fact, when I try to launch it when there are that many players, it wont ever pick up the names. Any ideas?

thanks,

redrum

[Cheule]

YoChoyLaMuete:
Unfortunately, the output of cvarlist was not what I expected. Can you tell me what the command "version" returns in console on a Mac? this way I could implement some kind of "Mc immunity" until I have it really fixed.


Version outputs:

"version" is:"Medal of Honor Allied Assault 1.11 MacOS-PPC Jun 20 2002" default:"Medal of Honor Allied Assault 1.11 MacOS-PPC Jun 20 2002"

Cheule

[ZteFanO]

On My Mac version is 1.12

[BN-BN]Zte F@n O

[Cheule]

On My Mac version is 1.12

My application is 1.12 also, but that is the info the version command returned. Did you issue a 'version' command to the console? Or did you speak before checking?

[ZteFanO]

the second :oops:
Zte

[Mercenary]

Had the new version downloaded en guess what, i still keep the error "runtimeerror 35600 index out of bounds"
and removed the old dir completly and installed the new one. :x

Its getting if the count of players exceed 18, then he will keep crashing.
And we need this proggie :(

[CFH666]

Try increasing the number of warnings per kick.

On ours if we had it set to 3 warnings/kick, and someone was running 5 cheats, we would get that error. We increased the number of warnings to a value greater then the number of cheats, and we havnt gotten it anymore.


[tfp] 6

[ReDrUm]

I had it up to 12 and it still didnt work.

redrum

[CFH666]

fixed it on mine

I cant get 2.0.0.6 to work though..

I gte a System Error &H8007007E (-2147024770). The specified module could not be found.

That happeneds with both rcondelator and moddelator


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[Pacote2k2]

fixed it on mine

I cant get 2.0.0.6 to work though..

I gte a System Error &H8007007E (-2147024770). The specified module could not be found.

That happeneds with both rcondelator and moddelator


6

You are getting this error because you dont have this file in the folder of delator:

mscomctl.ocx

YoChoyLaMuete said you could delete the file on this version but i got the exactly same error trying to load the program without it...

so put this file from the older version of delator and will work
:D

[CFH666]

I installed the 2.0.0.5 and then put in 2.0.0.6 and still got it

hmm weird.. I even deleted all copies, clean installed of both, same error. tried to run the 2.0.0.5 and same error.. Now nothing is working for me.


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[Benman]

Yup, same here. Without mscomctl.ocx it will not start, getting an error. I copied it from old Delator-folder and now it starts.

[CFH666]

You guys dont understand me. WITH or WITHOUT it NEITHER versions work any more.

On mine atleast.


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[Cheule]

_I_ understand you... <pant><pant>

[Barre]

I do think this one's important:

I had Delator erroring out on me while i was on the server. Heard the error-outsound, so i took a look. After that shutting down it ofcourse told me there already was a Delator running on the server when i did a restart. Did the set sv_delator 0 and it started again. But then again it errored out on me with this message: "Runtime error 9, Subscript out of range". Well, i tried above sequence a few times and i noticed it was able to check for the first 2 usernumbers ( 1 and 2 )and these were shown on the Delator-screen. The third user number did not show and it errored at that point.
So i went onto the server again and did a "rcon status" there to look if there was something strange with user #3. There where 20 users playing at that time.
And friggin, it sure showed something strange, the thing that drew my attention is the following:
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
3 5 62 uname 0 213.75.232.222:-3260223343 42920 5000 look at the port# ??
I did not even believe it myself so i did a few "rcon status". Results stayed the same.

That user left and it functioned fine with about 18 players on the server. When he came back after a while with 14 players on the server, Delator errored out again. "Rcon status" again showed that long negative port#, don''t know if it was the same, but it was also 10 digits long. Stupiddest thing was he returned and got the same user#, #3, i rather had like to see him getting 10....then i could have checked if Delator errored out at # 10.
I do know sometimes ports show negative numbers, even 1 of our clan shows negative in a "status" , but Delator doesn't crash on his.
num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate
--- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- -----
1 5 62 uname2 0 213.75.222.223:-32613 42920 5000
On this negative port# it doesn not error out.

Maybe this is of some help.?

I still have this problem, but not with any negative number. just very high ones. -32465228058
:(
(and yes, I use version 2.0.0.6)

[YoChoyLaMuete]

JaySublime
i have just got the updated version and i am still getting runtime error 9 please help, its only happening on my Barryserver

The title bar does indeed read "Delator 2.0.0.6"? If it does, then if you agree I could scan your server (you should setup a temp rcon pass for me) to see where you're getting the error.

305_Panzer
Ok guys I have a Newbie question. What is Modified Binaries?

It means the mohaa.exe or some dll has been edited trying to hide significant cvars on a dumpuser command.

Mercenary
OKe the error "Runtime Error 35600 - Index out of bounds" is coming regular now. Does anybody know how to fix this or what it means?

Gosh... I've never run it for more than 3/4 hours... Anyway, since more people is getting this error and it appears related to the Listview control, I've already working on a new version which doesn't relay on said control.

Sgt_Pepper
Do I completely uninstall the previous version, and run the new one? Thanks for your help

"Upgrading instructions:
In order to use your former rcondelator.ini, you must do this:
- Double click it (it will open on notepad)
- Go to the end of the text and right after the last square type:

"1" (without quotes) - if you want Delator to start scanning right after running it (as it did formerly).
"0" (without quotes) - if you wan to initiate the scan by pressing the 'Start' button each time.

Also, you may like to remove the mscomctl.ocx shipped with previous versions, that should be into the Delator folder (don't delete it if it's anywhere else!!). Maybe that should help fixing the err 35600." WARNING!! Some people is having problems with the last part of the instructions (removing the mscomctl.ocx file), so it's no longer recommended.

RedRum
So is anyone having the same problem I have had all along? It will not scan if my server is full. My server usually has between 18-25 players in the late afternoon and evening

RedRum please, can you confirm status is working on the MoHaa console when it fails on miniconsole? I would like to be sure it's not a network issue, since another user reported he was having him working with as much as 25 players.

Cheule
Thank you very much for the feedback. I hope to have the new version tomorrow.

CFH666:
The only file common to both apps is mscomctl.ocx - Try looking for it on your system (it should be on \windows\system32\ or similar) and copy (don't move it!) to the Delator folder. Other than that, maybe some VB file is missed; you may try to install version 1.0 (which includes the microsoft installer) and after that try again version 2.0.0.6. Anyway, as I said, most probably I will migrate to a safer component than Listview on future versions.

Good news - I think I've found the way to have rcon delator working on Spearhead even if the player uses spaces on his name (it can't be used on the regular dumpuser command, though). I'll do some tests this evening.

Regards,

YoChoy

[VSUKpadman]

Guys..

just in case this helps...delator has always worked fine for me on our 25 player server , even when full

Hope that helps

[Ruiner]

Good news - I think I've found the way to have rcon delator working on Spearhead even if the player uses spaces on his name (it can't be used on the regular dumpuser command, though). I'll do some tests this evening.
YoChoy

That's good news indeed!

[Benman]

As it seems we are running behind again.......friggin :evil:

http://www.thecheatpolice.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=89&forum=1

Dunno what i can do, but maybe YoChoy can ask for a link to that specific cheat-forum to see how Delator 2 is bypassed. :?:

[Benman]

Found it:

PJG Force Security

http://www.alliedassault.com/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=2062

[Crash620]

Probably more appropriate in codesecurity, but that thread appears dead...

I have recently noticed that while runnig delator w/ codesecurity, when i dumpuser a player they do not display any response for cg_3rd_person. The reference to this command doesnt appear. The random number generated by codesecurity matches that of the other players that return a response for cg_3rd_person.. Is this a cheat??? Any help would be appreciated!
Regards,
Crash

Of course it first appeared on a player that seemed to be playing much better than everyone else

[Snuffy]

keep getting Cheats enabled after i upload the pk file. I rcon quit server, recon restarted, rcon exec, and uploaded serveral times and delated. Just downloaded new version and same thing.

[YoChoyLaMuete]

Snuffy:
The "Cheats" indicator refers to the cheats cvar on the server (many people has it enabled but don't even know this). However, the Delator check may fail on occasions (for example, if polled while server is busy changing maps), and so it appears as "Cheats enabled" when they're indeed disabled. Type "cheats" in console and check what it returns.

Crash620:
I'm not sure if that has something to do with the new bypass, since I don't have a copy of it. However, I think I know how it works and I know how to fix it (thanks to Timber, the author of Code Security). Now I only need some time to put all the new features together...

Regards,

YoChoy

[Snuffy]

Okay the cheats responded with a cheats "0" default is "1". Is there a command line I can put in my server config to make sure it is set to "0".

Also I have notice that Delator 2 does not pick up S7ATiC-NoBushesCurtains.pk3. I also have tested some other Hacks which go unnoticed also. I was wonder if its my install or if this is really the case.

Thx

[YoChoyLaMuete]

Just put a line

set cheats 0

before the map xx/xxxx on your server.cfg

Nop, it doesn't pick nobushes/curtains and also a lot of other cheats. Server side detection is very limited, and there's no way to do that :(

Regards,

YoChoy

[sal]

im trying to use the moh:ci the new one with PJG Script And Delator.

How can i get all there to work at one time this would be great and or can you make the same thing up ? i would like to uses them.

What do i need to do to DMprecache.scr in all 3 to make them work can i ad them all to 1 ? could you tell me what to do step by step please

[Goku]

hey yochoy, i was wandering, why does delator program says moddelator isnt running, and dm dogtag isnt running? also the delator isnt picking up any wallhacks and no fog hacks in my server. is there something i need to do?



This thread is for you to post your feedback, either positive or negative, suggestions and doubts about Delator 2.0.

If you see a question and you already know the answer, please feel free to reply here.

Delator 2.0 can be downloaded right now at:

http://cealweb.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=20
http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator20.zip

Current version is:
RconDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.6
ModDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.2

P.D.: Don't dare to run it without first checking the help!!!

Regards,

YoChoy

[Eric]

Good news - I think I've found the way to have rcon delator working on Spearhead even if the player uses spaces on his name (it can't be used on the regular dumpuser command, though). I'll do some tests this evening.
YoChoy

That's good news indeed! :D any news on spearhead capabilities
would be great thnx again for great program

[ClickBouyow]

hey yochoy, i was wandering, why does delator program says moddelator isnt running, and dm dogtag isnt running? also the delator isnt picking up any wallhacks and no fog hacks in my server. is there something i need to do?



This thread is for you to post your feedback, either positive or negative, suggestions and doubts about Delator 2.0.

If you see a question and you already know the answer, please feel free to reply here.

Delator 2.0 can be downloaded right now at:

http://cealweb.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=20
http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator20.zip

Current version is:
RconDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.6
ModDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.2

P.D.: Don't dare to run it without first checking the help!!!

Regards,

YoChoy

I found that you have to put the modelator file in the /mainta folder. Same for Dogmeat's SMZ Dogtag. They will all run then. However, DMZ Dogtag gives a script error when launched. It is looking for some config screen.

[thejerk]

hey yochoy, i was wandering, why does delator program says moddelator isnt running, and dm dogtag isnt running? also the delator isnt picking up any wallhacks and no fog hacks in my server. is there something i need to do?



This thread is for you to post your feedback, either positive or negative, suggestions and doubts about Delator 2.0.

If you see a question and you already know the answer, please feel free to reply here.

Delator 2.0 can be downloaded right now at:

http://cealweb.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=20
http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator20.zip

Current version is:
RconDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.6
ModDelator.exe - v.2.0.0.2

P.D.: Don't dare to run it without first checking the help!!!

Regards,

YoChoy

Same thing is happening to me. dumpuser doesn't show any of the cvars that Delator creates. I'm still wondering why this is. Of coarse, I'm using DogTags and Code in combo with Delator. Everything was fine before I added Code, but I'd hate to give it up as that SS feature is pretty nice.

[ClickBouyow]

ModDelator gives the following error when I try to build the mod:

Runtime Error "53"
File Not Found


Any help would be appreciated.

[ClickBouyow]

ModDelator gives the following error when I try to build the mod:

Runtime Error "53"
File Not Found


Any help would be appreciated.

Never mind. I figured it out. There was a corrupt file. A re-install took care of it.

[ParrotCA]

I finally made it to the end of this thread.

I am new to the Delator 2.0 software, and had some trouble figuring out how to get it running.

Luckily, I found this fourm, and was tenacious enough to read beginning to end.

I realized that most of the errors I had were a direct result of not FULLY reading the instructions included with the 2.0.0.6 release of RconDelator.

Last night, I finally had success getting this to run. I guess I confused the part of making the dogtag file the last one in the main...or was it the delator file?

Anyhow, Great job YoChoyLaMuete for getting this far in developing something to catching these peeps. Great job with the program, and I look foward to future releases.

(Still wondering....if these peeps would spend HALF as much time playing the game square, instead of looking for, finding, and then trying to get around detection for the implementation of these cheats, then maybe they just might become HALF decent players.)

Uhmmm.....that last part was a brain fart. No skilled player would waste that much time looking for cheats.

Thanks again for all your hard work.

The only suggestion I have, is that you take some time off for yourself. Damn, after reading all this, I can't imagine how much effort you have put into it.

Oh yeah, one more thing.... Hey Shockwave!!!! Glad to see ya in the creds in this last release!!

[BlackLion]

sorry wrong posts :S

[BlackLion]

wrong post

[BlackLion]

wrongpost

[Goku]

how do i upload the pk3 file to my server?

[Goku]

how do i upload the pk3 file to my server?

[Mercenary]

Don't know it anymore :( :(
The delator gives me now everytime i start the program the next error : Runtime error 9 - Index out of range. :?:

It will sometime runs a week without a problem and then suddenly it gives the error when i start it, just don;t know it anymore.
Tryed it on a other PC and same problem.

HELP ME PLZ
:D

[CobraEF]

YoChoyLaMuete

Question fore you.


Is it possibel to make a mod that takes away the possibility to auto-select teams.?
________
Suzuki TL1000R (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Suzuki_TL1000R)

[AOD_MR_SCARY]

Ok i was running the delator 2.06......And a got a cheat called modified binaries.....Now what does that consist of.....is it a Scope setting it off a Hexeditor ? What i just want to know what i am dealing with......But the delator is a great program.......So far the best i have used, banned so many people off our server for hacking.....But some hacks still dont come up detected.......like 3rd person .....and some wall hack......Cant wait for the updates.....Great job...

AOD_PSgt_MR_SCARY

[AOD_MR_SCARY]

Ok i was running the delator 2.06......And a got a cheat called modified binaries.....Now what does that consist of.....is it a Scope setting it off a Hexeditor ? What i just want to know what i am dealing with......But the delator is a great program.......So far the best i have used, banned so many people off our server for hacking.....But some hacks still dont come up detected.......like 3rd person .....and some wall hack......Cant wait for the updates.....Great job...

AOD_PSgt_MR_SCARY

[AOD_MR_SCARY]

Ok i was running the delator 2.06......And a got a cheat called modified binaries.....Now what does that consist of.....is it a Scope setting it off a Hexeditor ? What i just want to know what i am dealing with......But the delator is a great program.......So far the best i have used, banned so many people off our server for hacking.....But some hacks still dont come up detected.......like 3rd person .....and some wall hack......Cant wait for the updates.....Great job...

AOD_PSgt_MR_SCARY

[AOD_MR_SCARY]

Ok i was running the delator 2.06......And a got a cheat called modified binaries.....Now what does that consist of.....is it a Scope setting it off a Hexeditor ? What i just want to know what i am dealing with......But the delator is a great program.......So far the best i have used, banned so many people off our server for hacking.....But some hacks still dont come up detected.......like 3rd person .....and some wall hack......Cant wait for the updates.....Great job...

AOD_PSgt_MR_SCARY

[stipo3]

my qestion is if delator 2 can ban team killers.please reply on geuclan@hotmail.com
http://www.geu-clan.com :twisted:

[Bazooka_Joe]

I would like to thank you all for your questions and inquiries on Delator, but most of all, I want to thank YoChoy for all the time he dedicated in helping these people.

Please refer any questions you may have towards Delator to YoChoy's new forum. Click the link below to access it:

http://mohadmin.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=13&sid=99ec580d1a38d66df0f385a8a72d6447