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Rimmel
12-08-2002, 11:06 AM
Any idea how to get the sv_pure switch to work?

As it is it either allows all (sv_pure 0) or allows no one at all (sv_pure 1.)

Hardly useful.

Cleaner
12-08-2002, 11:15 AM
yeah you gota have nothing in your mainta other then what came with the game, and the server has to have nothing other than what came with the game.

Rimmel
12-08-2002, 11:26 AM
Exactly, as much use as sleeves on a bikini!!

What are the developers at EA on???

How many server do you know who run with no patches at all?

I thought the idea was to allow any pack files that the server had on it???

SNYPE
12-08-2002, 07:16 PM
The original concept came with the original game engine and was meant to prevent cheating in match play.

Mr_nStuff
12-08-2002, 07:29 PM
most servers are not running the patch due to the fact it's not a US release.

And the sv_pure may not be working for a number of reason.

EA's fault: They only tested it on a specific MOHAA version to Spearhead.
Your Fault: Maybe it's detecting your no-cd crack.

Rimmel
12-08-2002, 08:13 PM
"Your Fault: Maybe it's detecting your no-cd crack."

eeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmm..?????????????

no cd crack??? eh ??? are you ok???
for a start the patch was release what..12 hours ago.. with no cd crack available yet.... doh

and....... the patch overwrites the exe whatever it is...... double doh

Please engage brain before posting :)

also "servers not running a patch because it not a US release"

I hope you dont have to wait 2 years for the US patch.... isnt that how late the US were for the actual war???????? :)


"The original concept came with the original game engine and was meant to prevent cheating in match play."

Your point? ...... define original game engine. Your statement is generalistic. Also your statement makes itself mute when you consider.. that EA is widely renowned for making useless decisions concerning gameplay and fixes, e.g. The community relies on itself to make patches/changes in gameplay because EA's arent realistic or dont even work". Therefore patches/pack files/mods are needed due to EA's lack of support. Sooooooo playing with a "PURE" server means playing a sub-standard game.

Also :Surely the game parameters are defined by the server? apparantly in every other instance in the gaming community.... the server rules.... if you dont like it play somewhere else. Therefore my original point is valid.

Pure is whatever is on the server. Anything less is more than useless.

Which is getting to the point that I was trying to make in the first instance. EA have got no idea what the gaming community want..... they just miss the point....... I would even go as far to say they make things worse.

:)

Mr_nStuff
12-08-2002, 09:46 PM
Actually there is a nocd patch for 2.11UK.. And it's nothing to worry about. I personally use them to limit the amount of cd's I have to load into the cd tray.

But it may be a possible reason why clients can not connect.

Rimmel
12-09-2002, 05:35 AM
no cd.... where is it? :)

Electric
12-09-2002, 06:08 AM
jeez, doesn't any of you read?
The US and EURO patch is 100% identical. Doesn't matter wich one you install doh!!!

btw, the no cd crack was released like 3 hours later :P
but SV_PURE should work anyways with or without no cd crack.

Oh one more thing.....u don't need a no cd crack to run a dedicated server. They removed the cd check with 2.11.

Readme files ? heard of those? :D

taken from server_readme.txt

================================================== ================
Features Included
================================================== ================

The dedicated server executable provides the following advantages
over the regular version of Medal of Honor Allied Assault(tm)
Spearhead:

- It can be run on systems that do not otherwise meet the
specifications required for the regular version; for
example it can be installed on rack-mounted servers that
lack a compatible OpenGL card.

- It does not require the Spearhead CD to be present when
executed.

- A serious security loophole present in Allied Assault
games (including Spearhead) has been fixed.

Rimmel
12-09-2002, 06:25 AM
so where is the no cd exe?

blasney
12-09-2002, 09:38 AM
no cd crack??? eh ??? are you ok???
for a start the patch was release what..12 hours ago.. with no cd crack available yet.... doh

and....... the patch overwrites the exe whatever it is...... double doh


I suggest you follow your own advise. The no-cd crack was out at the same time as the patch. Just because YOU didn't find it does not mean it doesn't exist.

Also, it may be chacking the MOH executeable, not just the SH one.

Also, I don't use no-cd cracks on my server, but I use them on my client, which would also fail any sort of CRC check.

Please engage brain before posting :)
Yup.

Electric
12-09-2002, 11:50 AM
How can PURE have a CRC check when servers can have mods? :P
That wouldn't be possible if every byte would be hardcoded in the game.

blasney
12-09-2002, 11:56 AM
In the Q3a engine, there is another CVAR that allows the server to load pk3's without including them in the crc check, thus not requiring the client to have them.

Electric
12-09-2002, 02:50 PM
any possibility for you to find out wich cvar?
could be intresting :)

thecleaner
12-09-2002, 04:35 PM
ANYWAYS GUYS
i had AOW install the UK patch on my server the min i seen it was out....
and no matter what i did, and yes i bought both copys of mohaa/SH and do not use no cd crack i still could not log onto my server, and both my SH is clean and my server is clean, and it would not let me in....so i don't know what is up with that....

Electric
12-09-2002, 07:31 PM
Seems to be a bug or something with PURE, many has that problem.
Works for me though but its useless if it has bugs.