Heads up Server Admins!!! [Archive]

WintersForge

10-28-2002, 03:48 PM

Ive noticed over the past few weeks, that some peeps are using a new skin pack. When u run dumpuser on them it will say they are using allied_pilot and axis_NAMEHERE. After some research ive turned up a hybrid skin/wallhack. This skin pk3 file allows the user to see the position of all people on the map but doesnt have the weird texture problems associated with the known wallhacks out there. Ive banned 4 pepople in the past 3 days for using this on the =KaoS= server so just a heads up to all admins. Sorry RD if this is in the wrong place... 8O

Druid

10-28-2002, 04:52 PM

One question wintersforge.
If it using the allied_pilot name how do you know if it's the hacked version of the skin or the real one?
I would imagine most of the people using these skin have already changed the names of the models.
The way I can see beating this cheat is to run Dogtagz and rotate what skins are forced each day.
By the way for anyone who deosn't know. There is a cheat out to get by the dogtagz no forced skins setting.

If you use these skins while you spectate someone who you think may be cheating. It becomes very easy to spot if the person is using these skins.
You can set and watch them track peoples movements though the walls.
You have to love the irony. The cheaters are getting caught by the same cheat they are using.

WintersForge

10-28-2002, 07:00 PM

well the easiest way is to have the skin loaded, take force models off and see if they are forcing models. thats how i caught them. yes they can rename them but most dont know how to do it....

Hollywood

10-28-2002, 07:12 PM

The best thing is not allow them to use force models. Delator works to help you detect known bright skins and automatically kick them as well.

Druid

10-29-2002, 01:17 AM

The best thing is not allow them to use force models. Delator works to help you detect known bright skins and automatically kick them as well.

I don't like playing with force models off. I hate the look of the game with 20 different player skins running around.
I polled must of the regulares on my server and they wanted to keep force models also.

WintersForge

10-29-2002, 09:48 AM

Yeah Forced Models has its pros and cons. I use it all the time. Easier to identify your teammates and enemies. Also helps peeps with slower systems not lag so bad. Well i hope all this garbage goes away with the advent of sv_pure...

SeanTheGreat

10-29-2002, 12:02 PM

I ALWAYS use forced skins, on axis i have that winter skin =P and on allies it varies whichever mood im in lol.. but to deactivate it would take off my whole strategy on alies, which is see something white and moving, shoot at it.. :D

WintersForge

10-29-2002, 01:18 PM

when im allies i love to shoot labcoats....when im axis i shoot airborne or pilot depending on the map...manon is pretty funny as well....

Benman

10-30-2002, 01:12 PM

Hmm, how can i see if someone is using "force models" ?? And how do i toggle "force models" off and on....serverside ?

Tripped

10-30-2002, 04:01 PM

if you have rcon command you use this
rcon dumpuser "nameofuser"
this lets you see something like this
userinfo
-------
rate :25000
name :fubar
dm_playermodel : allied_airborne
dm_playergermanmodel : glowinthedark
snaps :20

and sometimes more.
as you can see they are using forced models and look one that with that name more than likely is not standard one and probabbly one they can see better with.
hope this helps

Benman

10-30-2002, 08:08 PM

Still don't know how forcemodels 0 or 1 can help me track cheaters, but then again.....this last cheat sure is a Mohaa-killer.

Friggin cheatskinbuilders :evil:

11-01-2002, 09:05 AM

I downloaded the server scanner this morning, and i also have delator, which is better to use. Also when i tried to log into the server scanner after i registered, it has an error that pops up and says it can't connect to the DWM database server, so whats up with that??

WintersForge

11-01-2002, 09:36 AM

Do you need to alter your hosts file by adding the IP?

11-01-2002, 09:40 AM

When I try to log into the Server Scanner, it pops up and says that it cannot connect to DMW database server, it won't even take me to the program, it won't even let the program load until i put in my nickname and password, and when i do i get that command

WintersForge

11-01-2002, 09:42 AM

i would email the creator of the app....

11-01-2002, 09:45 AM

I got it from this website under admin tools, its called Server Scanner from DMW Divisions

ThePlagueofDeath

11-03-2002, 11:18 PM

The only thing i am wanting to know is, what is this server scanner you are talking about?? i never saw a link anywhere in this thread. I have Delator, dogtagz, and autokick, what am i missing???

11-04-2002, 12:55 AM

LOOK UNDER ADMIN TOOLS IN THIS WEBSITE, NOT IN THE THREADS...WWW.MODADMIN.COM ITS CALLED DMW SERVER SCANNER AND ITS UP AND RUNNING NOW

midnight

11-18-2002, 04:28 AM

how could i disable the mohaa forcing skins option?

Hi_pING

11-20-2002, 07:06 AM

I am not a server owner, Just a reg on a couple good servers, the past week more and more have come in with these skins, as a player there is nothing i can do... even to yell cheater, most won't belive me and go on about getting skill, I have watched players while in spec with the cheat loaded, so I know they are cheating, just hard to prove it or explain how i know... if i explain they think im cheating too..

what i have started to do is record the cheater with cyber cam,
http://www.smartguyz.com/support/ i can record everything... and send it and the info to thier clans... screen shots dont prove it .

think if a server anounced all cheaters will be recorded and info sent to clans, well it might help a little, heck i dont know seems the game starting to become more work then fun ...hope something changes soon.

Benman

11-20-2002, 09:08 AM

Maybe someone should start a new server:

CHEATSERVER all cheats allowed, get cheats at www.*****.tk

hehehe :twisted:

Argon

11-20-2002, 02:01 PM

YoChoyLaMuete

11-21-2002, 07:25 AM

Hi,

I'm the Delator programmer. I haven't tried it yet on Spearhead, but my guess is yes, it will work. Also, I recommend you to use DogTag, which allows you to directly disable forcemodels serverside. Having them both running you will be sure no player is using bright skins and you will be notified when someone tries to do so.

You can download it from this site.

Regards,

YoChoy

Benman

11-21-2002, 08:59 AM

The best thing is not allow them to use force models. Delator works to help you detect known bright skins and automatically kick them as well.

Ok where do I get this Mod and will it work on Spearhead?

Right, i already got Dogtagz.........but all i get is a simple explanation what it does. I want a detailed description how it works
Does it prevent users on that server to see the same skins on his pc ?? Does it give strange information to clientside about skins being used ??
What ???

Anyone know a site where i can find this info ??

Benman

11-21-2002, 03:11 PM

[quote="Hollywood"]The best thing is not allow them to use force models. Delator works to help you detect known bright skins and automatically kick them as well.

Ok where do I get this Mod and will it work on Spearhead?

Right, i already got Dogtagz.........but all i get is a simple explanation what it does. I want a detailed description how it works
Does it prevent users on that server to see the same skins on his pc ?? Does it give strange information to clientside about skins being used ??
What ???

Anyone know a site where i can find this info ??

I just don't know what Dogmeat's Dogtagz supposed to do ?? We installed it on our server, then tested with cheatskins and "force models" checked on clientside. But we still saw all users walk in those cheatskins.
Not working i guess !!??

Noctis

11-28-2002, 06:20 AM

Bleh, accidentally double-posted and I can't delete! :oops:

Noctis

11-28-2002, 06:20 AM

I'm a server admin (just registered with MOHadmin Reccommended) for the [203rd] Dedicated Server. I can verify this through xgameserver.com email accounts or XGS support staff if necessary (I own the server). I am looking to obtain copies of these cheat skins so I can run checks on some regulars that seem a bit iffy to me. Like I said, I run a server that I just registered with MOHadmin this evening, and I can verify this if necessary. I just need the skins to help stop cheating on my server. Thanks,

General Noctis Aeternus
Commanding Officer of the 203rd Airborne Infantry Division

doclabsinc@hotmail.com

milan

12-12-2002, 11:55 PM

rate :25000
name :fubar
dm_playermodel : allied_airborne
dm_playergermanmodel : glowinthedark
snaps :20

How do i see if he uses forced models, snaps or rate?

Druid

12-13-2002, 12:18 AM

Dumpuser doesn't show if someone is using forced models.
But if they are using a skin called "glowinthedark" it's a pretty safe bet they are. :D

YoChoyLaMuete

12-13-2002, 04:17 AM

Dumpuser doesn't show if someone is using forced models.

heheheheh... wait a few days for delator 2.0... muahahahahaa! :D

Oh! and about DogTag, it doesn't send any player info to the clients, it only instructs them to disable force models at regular intervals (or, if you're using the server-side forced models, to force the skin you selected).

Regards,

YoChoy

Druid

12-13-2002, 05:39 AM

YoChoyLaMuete

Did you figure out how to do dumpuser in SH for people with spaces in their names?
Surrounding thier name with quotes doesn't work like it did in AA.

YoChoyLaMuete

12-13-2002, 05:45 AM

Weird, it works for me... 8O

http://www.mohadmin.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=473

And call me yochoy, np :D

Regards