Any news on Anticheat ? [Archive]

Oracleman

09-22-2003, 05:31 PM

Will CoD have any cheat countermeasures like PunkBuster or similar ? I'd rather not have to spend lots of time keeping them out in this game too. Anyone know ?

And yes, we are switching to CoD too :!:

rudedog

09-22-2003, 06:30 PM

They are being tight lipped. They have not said outright it will be punkbuster.

Check out this thread http://www.codadmin.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28

Irksome

09-22-2003, 08:56 PM

It doesn't sound good ... a 7 second replay of your death from your killers point of view ... as I have said elsewhere its still subjective, not objective.

rudedog

09-23-2003, 05:52 AM

I have sent Activision a question regarding the "kill cam". I'm hoping it can be disabled via a server sided switch.

I will post any info they give me, if any. They seem to be a little quite on the MP aspect of the game.

I bet we will hear/see more after the release of MOH:BT

Anderson

09-24-2003, 07:19 PM

Sounds good. Seven seconds is a long time to catch where your killer is :o :? !

Misery

09-24-2003, 11:25 PM

No kidding, not too mention its far to long to wait to go and exact revenge!

Oracleman

09-25-2003, 01:41 AM

Well, that's the FFA and TDM perspective I guess. For OBJ clanwars this could be a tactics ruiner and of course the opposite, a tactics developer. Hmmm, have to think some more about this.... :|-):

Heinz

09-25-2003, 07:52 AM

that's cool, it will prevent everyone from sitting around in the same spots all the time. the more I hear about it, and think it thru, it sounds great!! :|

ClickBouyow

09-25-2003, 08:06 AM

Rumor has it that it is a cvar that can be turned off and on. So for TDM, you could turn it on, for Obj, you can turn it off. I am more interested in whether PunkBuster will be included, if not with the initial release, then with a patch.

SNYPE

09-25-2003, 09:11 AM

I had read on a cheat site that someone knew someone in Germany that had a full version already and it included Punkbuster.
(Of course they were all bragging about how they could beat PB.)
We will see, it would be great if it is true.

Misery

09-25-2003, 09:16 AM

that's cool, it will prevent everyone from sitting around in the same spots all the time. the more I hear about it, and think it thru, it sounds great!! :|

You make a good point here, one that I never thought of. :!:

My comment was totally with a Spearhead mentality. Get killed, know where your enemy is camped out, run like a bat out of hell across the map, kill him.

Hopefully this game will allow the use of tactics and prevent some of the Rambo aspects of SH.

Oracleman

09-25-2003, 09:30 AM

Yup, PunkBuster would free some time for me to play instead of administating the server :clap: :clap: :clap: :!:

Heinz

09-25-2003, 01:47 PM

Oracle, hear you man. babysitting a server is a comeplete PITA. Our server's Ban Hammer has been worn down to a "ban toothpick". :lol:

ClickBouyow

09-25-2003, 05:57 PM

1stSF-PoolMaster at the Cheat Police forums says PunkBuster is confirmed, although he didn't give a source. Rude, can you get a confirmation on it?

Timdog

09-25-2003, 08:36 PM

It would be great if COD included PB. I saw when the included PB in AA:O and it banned nearly 1/4 of the players. Some people you would never think were cheating used the latest wallhacks and aimbots. I hope that the anti-cheat support is better for COD then it was for MOH.

SgtD

09-25-2003, 08:38 PM

lol at this point if Activision comes out with any AC it will be better than MOH as EA didn't come out with anything. I have high hopes for COD and PB.

Parrot

09-26-2003, 04:36 AM

Any AC.. yup.

Punkbuster, as stated elsewhere, is probably the best way to go, but the Kill Cam is a step in the right direction.

Still, 2 thumbs up to IW for at least recognizing cheats are a problem with MP games, and stepping up to the plate do do something about it now.

Heinz

09-26-2003, 01:06 PM

yeah, god bless 'em. :smile:

Anderson

09-28-2003, 10:50 AM

I think its a good idea for regular gameplay for like 4 seconds, but 7 seconds after your death is to long. As for matches & scrimmages goes, I think they should have the option of turning it off . But its still a good idea, as it gets rid of all the questions that you ask after you've just been shot. Such as 'is he cheating?'..... Just my opinion.

Another_Modder

10-01-2003, 05:45 AM

I'm not exactly sure or not but judging by what
http://www.autokick.com says . Crow king will be making a autokick 2 anticheat for it. :!:

svoller

10-08-2003, 04:32 PM

I heard that COD was written by the same lead programmers as MOH, is this true ? If so does this mean that the scripting and engine mods will work ?

We have a custom GUI rcon that we use to interface to CI and MAM for in game Admin of Spearhead and it would be nice to be able to just mod it for COD.

ClickBouyow

10-09-2003, 12:00 PM

I heard that COD was written by the same lead programmers as MOH, is this true ?

Yes. it is true.

If so does this mean that the scripting and engine mods will work ?We have a custom GUI rcon that we use to interface to CI and MAM for in game Admin of Spearhead and it would be nice to be able to just mod it for COD.

Both are based on the Quake 3 engine, however both EA Games and Activision (Infinity Ward really) have reconfigured the engine to meet their needs. The closed to CoD will be RTCW. The closest to MOH is Quake 3. Your mod MAY work, but it is doubtful. The game organization is different.

svoller

10-09-2003, 02:57 PM

Is there an unofficial rcon guide for COD anywhere ?

ClickBouyow

10-10-2003, 12:13 PM

Is there an unofficial rcon guide for COD anywhere ?

I haven't seen or heard of one....yet. I am sure rudedog will have something as soon as it is available.

Cyberdoc

10-25-2003, 09:34 AM

Anymore info on PB?

Heinz

10-25-2003, 12:15 PM

Cyberdoc

10-26-2003, 05:33 PM

What about realism....anyone heard any more from CK?

Heinz

10-26-2003, 05:37 PM

out of the box, CoD will have more realism than MOH ever dreamed of.

see. ibid, the demos. :)

Cyberdoc

10-26-2003, 05:42 PM

rgr, ty.

Soon, very soon .... :wink:

Resolution208

10-28-2003, 08:41 AM

Is there an unofficial rcon guide for COD anywhere ?

2 Good ways to learn the commands (without having a manual):

/rcon cvarlist

this will list all the cvars which can be adjusted on the server. most are self explanitory (ie, hostname "", g_maxlives 8, etc..)

For commands, try:

/rcon cmdlist

it *should* list all the ocmmands available to the admin. (ie, map, reset_match, map_restart, callvote, clientkick, etc..)

- R208.

ClickBouyow

10-28-2003, 04:21 PM

What about realism....anyone heard any more from CK?

He is not going to do anything until the game is released and he can look at it.

Oracleman

10-29-2003, 05:47 PM

I see some rumours about PunkBuster not being in there.
Correct ? :?

SgtD

10-30-2003, 12:12 PM

Correct. We do not have confirmation though if it will or will not be added at some time in the future as part of a patch.

UnDead

10-30-2003, 09:05 PM

Another good anti-cheat for match play is the built in demo maker, which should be required for all matches to be running. For those that don't know what a demo is in this context its a recording of everystep you took during the match from your First Person view point.

I like this idea better then the 7 second see there spot as with the demo you see what they see and who they kill. Just hope demos aren't that big, rumor has it they aren't. And also hope they don't bog your computer down, which was also rumored it doesn't. CoD comes with 2 disks. Cannot wait to get it installed when I get off work.

Punkbuster, I am kinda doubting it will come as Even Balance would have some mention about it.

Blitzkrieg

10-31-2003, 12:31 PM

Just so you guys know, PB is NOT in the game, maybe a patch will add it, cause with the kill cam, i have been eyeballing it very closely, and some ppl are rather "lucky". Not sure if this is the first release of either the opengl hack or wallhack/glowskins, but just a few ppl have looked rather fishy..........

Rogue

10-31-2003, 02:27 PM

yea, cheats are out, i've seen screenshots on the CB forums

basically any Q3 engine cheat (cham skins, opengl) works

w00t for another Q3 engine game :)

Jerseysax

10-31-2003, 06:41 PM

I'm just curious to see the screenshots. What forum can I find them in? I'm in denial right now. :x

Jerseysax

10-31-2003, 07:15 PM

Nevermind. I just saw the screenshots. The hacks are out there. :x :x

imported_IW-Inherent

10-31-2003, 07:25 PM

If you know of any cheats you can email info@infinityward.com and we will try to fix them.

Oracleman

11-01-2003, 05:09 AM

Well I hope PB is included FAST ! As said before, if we have to spend all our time fighting cheats in this game too, then it's not going to last long.....

netrunner

11-02-2003, 10:51 AM

If you run your server in pure mode it will find the pk.3 files and next map change it will kick them out and tell them why. The only problem with this is you can only run stock pk.3's in your game.