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rudedog
03-08-2010, 02:46 PM
Just because no one else is doing it (think supporting the PC platform) means Valve should be. If this catches on, then Microsoft better be worried as there won't be much reason to game on Windows.

And to think, they're not simply porting their games, they are coding them for the platform. - NICE

Bye-bye Windows......Valve announced today it will bring Steam, Valve's gaming service, and Source, Valve's gaming engine, to the Mac.

Steam and Valve's library of games including Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike, Portal, and the Half-Life series will be available in April.

"As we transition from entertainment as a product to entertainment as a service, customers and developers need open, high-quality Internet clients," said Gabe Newell, President of Valve. "The Mac is a great platform for entertainment services."

"Our Steam partners, who are delivering over a thousand games to 25 million Steam clients, are very excited about adding support for the Mac," said Jason Holtman, Director of Business Development at Valve. "Steamworks for the Mac supports all of the Steamworks APIs, and we have added a new feature, called Steam Play, which allows customers who purchase the product for the Mac or Windows to play on the other platform free of charge. For example, Steam Play, in combination with the Steam Cloud, allows a gamer playing on their work PC to go home and pick up playing the same game at the same point on their home Mac. We expect most developers and publishers to take advantage of Steam Play."

"We looked at a variety of methods to get our games onto the Mac and in the end decided to go with native versions rather than emulation," said John Cook, Director of Steam Development. "The inclusion of WebKit into Steam, and of OpenGL into Source gives us a lot of flexibility in how we move these technologies forward. We are treating the Mac as a tier-1 platform so all of our future games will release simultaneously on Windows, Mac, and the Xbox 360. Updates for the Mac will be available simultaneously with the Windows updates. Furthermore, Mac and Windows players will be part of the same multiplayer universe, sharing servers, lobbies, and so forth. We fully support a heterogeneous mix of servers and clients. The first Mac Steam client will be the new generation currently in beta testing on Windows."

Portal 2 will be Valve's first simultaneous release for Mac and Windows. "Checking in code produces a PC build and Mac build at the same time, automatically, so the two platforms are perfectly in lock-step," said Josh Weier, Portal 2 Project Lead. "We're always playing a native version on the Mac right alongside the PC. This makes it very easy for us and for anyone using Source to do game development for the Mac."

Support for the Mac in Source and Steamworks is available to third parties immediately. Interested developers should contact Jason Holtman at jasonh@valvesoftware.com.

Leading Gaming Service Expands to Mac Platform
Source: http://store.steampowered.com/news/3569/

SiCDude4Him
03-08-2010, 02:49 PM
Wow.

Sorry for the spam'ish response but to a guy wiht two iMac's and a Mac Book Pro all I can say is wow :)

rudedog
03-08-2010, 03:34 PM
Hey I've moved everything over to Mac, with the exception of one box just for gaming. I may be able to move that over depending on what other devs do (hint, Dice and Treyarch hint hint)

fable2
03-08-2010, 04:08 PM
very interesting

maybe that's the start to the gaming era for the macs

or Apple in general as seen with the tons of games they released for the iphone

Pendragon
03-08-2010, 05:32 PM
Will Apple start fitting good graphics cards to Mac's?

Given that market share of Linux desktops is around the same as Apple how much longer for Linux support? Getting their games to run natively on a UNIX based OS like OSX will mean most of the work has been done for a Linux Steam.

I'm loving BC2 at the moment but I could live on a diet of Steamed games... On Linux, there is no way I can justify the cost of a Mac. I checked the Apple site out and if you wanted my PC it would cost over three and a half grand! Even then the G/Card would only be half the power of mine. No I can't afford an Apple and I'll not be sucked in by the hype, Valve or no valve...

rudedog
03-08-2010, 05:41 PM
My current desktop iMac and MBP have an 8800 with 512 megs of ram with the newer models coming out with a lot better then what I have.

Now with that said, if Valve is using OpenGL then that should be an easy port to linux. Mac OS X and above, runs on top of Linux so we may be closer then you think...

rudedog
03-08-2010, 05:42 PM
then there is the whole thing about running a hackentosh on your current setup and really giving MS the boot.
:hand:

bacon
03-08-2010, 06:36 PM
I like OSX but I find it hard to accept the 30 % apple tax on hardware. Until they open the os up to run on any hardware, I won't be a mac user.

Good for valve tapping this market thou, I hope it is a success for them.

Pendragon
03-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Hackintosh, now there is an idea... I like a challenge. :)

GaSplat
03-08-2010, 10:36 PM
The bigger news to me is Portal 2 - awesome!! :D

I don't see a Mac in my personal near term future for many reasons - overpriced being one. The other is that Apple is a bigger monopolist/tyrant than Wintel in philosophy. The only reason you don't hear many complaints is they lack market share. Linux is more exciting. Hope that one happens so we can use more advanced graphics cards without needing Uncle Steve's blessing (or tax).

soulz2003
03-08-2010, 11:30 PM
I can't stand Mac's. They are way too over priced, you can't buy your own hardware; have to go through 'Apple', amongst other things.

rudedog
03-09-2010, 08:33 AM
Looks like Dice is looking into the Mac platform as well.

From Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5488955/bad-company-2-might-go-mac-as-well)DICE's Karl Magnus Troedsson said as much yesterday, Tweeting "We're currently investigating the possibility of making BFBC2 available on Mac". Pretty clear, that.

zeroy
03-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Ah the Mac .... why not i suppose - Mac owners give enough $$ to Jobs to deserve Games too :D

Stec
03-09-2010, 11:51 AM
Really, really good news. Valve is the cream of the crop in terms of PC gaming devs and they are leading by example with this move.

Like many of you I've only ever kept a Windows box around to game.

For those who for one reason or another do not own or use a Mac currently, then this is good news for you as well--millions more potential players in <insert favorite game here>.

romeozor
03-09-2010, 07:49 PM
i'm waiting for the next big announcement that Valve is releasing their own version of linux which they will support themselves with games and steam.
mac is probably good but i have zero support for it around here so it's hard to be excited.

Pendragon
03-10-2010, 06:12 AM
i'm waiting for the next big announcement that Valve is releasing their own version of linux which they will support themselves with games and steam.
mac is probably good but i have zero support for it around here so it's hard to be excited.

That would be a big ask for Valve. The distros have lots of people working on maintenance, it would be beyond the resources of a company like Valve.

One of the things often quoted as a barrier for developers supporting Linux is the distributed nature.

Often people get confused by the different distros, saying "how can we support so many?" Well the answers you don't! They support themselves, that is sort of the whole point of community's.

One answer is to support just one, and let the Linux Guru's figure out the things needed to make it work on the different Distros. If we could get Gabe Newell and Mark Shuttleworth in the same room we would have Steam on Ubuntu, probably with in 6 months!